PA. casino review

BJgenius007

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#21
Surprise! The dealer wants me to lose more.

Last night, I had a 7 and 9 while dealer shown 10. So after she checked for Blackjack, I said surrender. She said I am not allowed. I called for the floor. The pit boss said yes, I can surrender.

She flip the card, it was another ten. I told her I saw the reflection in her eyes it is a ten, so I had to surrender.
 
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BJgenius007 said:
Last night, I had a 7 and 9 while dealer shown 10. So after she checked for Blackjack, I said surrender. She said I am not allowed. I called for the floor. The pit boss said yes, I can surrender.

She flip the card, it was another ten. I told her I saw the reflection in her eyes it is a ten, so I had to surrender.
BJgenius, which casino?
 
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BJgenius007 said:
Last night, I had a 7 and 9 while dealer shown 10. So after she checked for Blackjack, I said surrender. She said I am not allowed. I called for the floor. The pit boss said yes, I can surrender.

She flip the card, it was another ten. I told her I saw the reflection in her eyes it is a ten, so I had to surrender.
The flaw here is that when a dealer checks for an A under a T, they either see the A or they see nothing. She only knew it wasn't an A. There's a reason why T is checked portrait and A is checked landscape. Grab a deck of cards and check for yourself.
 

Tico

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#24
CaptainJack said:
The flaw here is that when a dealer checks for an A under a T, they either see the A or they see nothing. She only knew it wasn't an A. There's a reason why T is checked portrait and A is checked landscape. Grab a deck of cards and check for yourself.
Jack, welcome aboard! It's about time for you to show up here from bj21.com after a decade. BTW, some AC dealers have worked 16 hours a day in order to put kids through colleges or medical schools, thus they are so tired that they cannot tell the difference between "portrait" and "landscape". Sometimes when a tired dealer misreads a bj, players get the benefit., i.e., a game of double-exposure rather than a regular bj game.
 

blackchipjim

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#26
Store Pop?

I was in a store in enjoining state yesterday and the question of customer density came up. I asked the dealer if he saw a drop in customers since the opening of the talble in Pa. He said no not really and the meadows have dropped off since the opening. I was surprised to hear the answer since everytime I went to the store that is close in north Pa it was pretty crowded. Does anyone frequent other ones and is it pretty crowded all day or was the dealer telling the true story?
 

Sharky

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#27
He's lying. WV is desolate since PA opened, I would not be surprised if 1, or both, closed...and certainly after Ohio opens.
 

Tico

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#28
CaptainJack said:
Don't ask me why after years of lurking I chose that message to be my first post. Slow day I guess.
A lurker for years? Oopz, you may not be the Captain Jack of bj21.com. I know of another long time lurker: Captain Jack (the count team boss) of the defunct Claridge Casino. After the boss left the Titanic, Captain Jack works for Harrah's, and he halfshoes wannabies and APs as he were still in Claridge Casino.
 
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Tico said:
A lurker for years? Oopz, you may not be the Captain Jack of bj21.com. I know of another long time lurker: Captain Jack (the count team boss) of the defunct Claridge Casino. After the boss left the Titanic, Captain Jack works for Harrah's, and he halfshoes wannabies and APs as he were still in Claridge Casino.
Not sure why you think Captain Jack @ BJ21 is a counter-catcher...but whatever, I've been called worse.
 

Tico

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#30
CaptainJack said:
Not sure why you think Captain Jack @ BJ21 is a counter-catcher...but whatever, I've been called worse.
Hmm Methinks there are 2 Captain Jacks: Wong's Jack & Claridge's Jack. I said Captain Jack of the defunct Claridge Casino was the count team boss. If you're the Wong's Jack, not the Claridge's Jack, then I'll take your words for it :).
 

BJgenius007

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#31
Recent observations on Pittsurgh casinos.

1. Now I know why the air in the Meadows is so fresh. The right wing of BJ tables is in the non smoking zone, with all slot machines are marked non-smoking. However, this wing only opens in the evenings and weekends. If you come to play in non-peak hours, you have to go to play in the left wing.

2. One dealer in the Meadows told us that the management told them not to worry about the counters because most of them lose money in 6D game anyway. Hehe.

3. While it is easy to find seats in the Meadows now, the Rivers is still packed. You have to wait for seats in the evening. I saw a lot of tourists from all over the country. Seems it becomes a new destination for casual gamblers. Many are surprised that the rules are so friendly (S17, DAS and late surrender) compared to LV and AC. Location. Location.

4. The Rivers now enforces no middle session entry to prevent Wonging.

5. To compete, Mountaineer Casino now pays 2:1 to suited Blackjack instead of 3:2 in happy hours. That adds about 0.12% advantage to the players. (Although it is still the only casino in the region not offering late surrender.)
 
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Smart Management

BJgenius007 said:
2.One dealer in the Meadows told us that the management told them not to worry about the counters because most of them lose money in 6D game anyway. Hehe.

4. The Rivers now enforces no middle session entry to prevent Wonging.
On point 2 casinos do make money off of all the pseudo counters, correct thinking on their part.:joker::whip:
On point 4 casinos should do nothing to slow down people playing, incorrect thinking on their part.:joker::whip:
 
#33
blackjack avenger said:
On point 2 casinos do make money off of all the pseudo counters, correct thinking on their part.:joker::whip:...
I wouldn't say that. A casino doesn't even make money off a BS BJ player with those rules, if the comps are worth anything. Any kind of spread proportional to the advantage at all will put the player in +EV, even if not enough to make it worthwhile for the player.
 

bj bob

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#34
Automatic Monkey said:
I wouldn't say that. A casino doesn't even make money off a BS BJ player with those rules, if the comps are worth anything. Any kind of spread proportional to the advantage at all will put the player in +EV, even if not enough to make it worthwhile for the player.
Agree and disagree. It depends on how you define a "pseudo" counter. A casual counter playing the simple forms of KO for example with an anemic spread will probably tread water; however, the ugly monster of improper BR management is the eventual grim reaper of wannabees.
 

aslan

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#35
bj bob said:
Agree and disagree. It depends on how you define a "pseudo" counter. A casual counter playing the simple forms of KO for example with an anemic spread will probably tread water; however, the ugly monster of improper BR management is the eventual grim reaper of wannabees.
I resemble that!:whip::whip: :flame: :flame: :whip::whip: :laugh: :laugh:
 
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bj bob said:
Agree and disagree. It depends on how you define a "pseudo" counter. A casual counter playing the simple forms of KO for example with an anemic spread will probably tread water; however, the ugly monster of improper BR management is the eventual grim reaper of wannabees.
It is, and most counters with an improper BR will fail but the casino still doesn't make any money off them because some of them won't fail and will instead multiply their insignificant BR many times.

Let's say you have a bunch of counters spreading $10-$100 with a good game and spread, but $2K bankrolls. Sure, maybe 80% will lose their $2K, but the other 20% will take the casino for five figures.

I think the only way a substandard counter can be an advantage to the house (from his personal play) is by steaming with a disadvantage.
 

bigplayer

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#38
BJgenius007 said:
I play at the Rivers and the Meadows. They only shuffle when the yellow card came out.
Isn't that when they are supposed to shuffle? What are you proposing that they shuffle when you ask them to?
 

aslan

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#39
Dave2112 said:
i saw an ASM (not CSM) table at Hollywood grantville that looked like it was being half-shoed. Do they do that to all their ASM tables?
Other Hollywoods I've seen terrific pen, so I suppose they were dealing with a suspected counter if they half shoed the game.
 

bj bob

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#40
Automatic Monkey said:
It is, and most counters with an improper BR will fail but the casino still doesn't make any money off them because some of them won't fail and will instead multiply their insignificant BR many times.

Let's say you have a bunch of counters spreading $10-$100 with a good game and spread, but $2K bankrolls. Sure, maybe 80% will lose their $2K, but the other 20% will take the casino for five figures.

I think the only way a substandard counter can be an advantage to the house (from his personal play) is by steaming with a disadvantage.
Excellent point, Herr Monk!
When looking at counters as a whole, they will indeed reek havoc upon a casino's bottom line. They never know which one(s) of that bunch will have 'his day" at any particular time. I guess the "pseudo" counter they need not fear is the one that gets cocky, thinks he's invincible and proceeds to the craps table and starts betting the hard ways across with his entire BR. In that scenario they would probably welcome him back with open arms.
 
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