question about three card

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feeley

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been thinking about playing some three card poker but wondering about the rules. i was watching a table the other night and as people were checking their cards they seemed to be hiding them from everyone like they were in the WSOP or something. my question is if your allowed to show other players your cards or not because you have nothing to lose by showing them. right?
 
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ccl

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i have seen it playing BJ also people just play poker and assume all poker tables are the same, when i used to deal a texas hold em table game we had to start using poker cards because the players were bending the cards so much the shuffler would stop every 2-3 hands because of bent cards from teh players peeking at them like they were in the poker room
 
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feeley

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i just dont understand why people would not show each other their hands unless there was a rule against it. dont people realize it will help you?
 
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ccl

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the average player does not realize this, they all didnt realize it helps, but even on a full table with 5 spots you get to see 15 out of 52 cards hoping to guess 3 of them. I have played however at places where you are not allowed to share card info.

its just a poker habit for everybody i think
 
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ccl

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most casinos i have played you could show but it could be off the dealer, but i have played places that warned you once about showing and on the 2nd time you werent allowed to play 3 card anymore. I guess it depends on the city or casino
 
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callipygian

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BlodiaInc said:
i posted earlier about this, and I was told knowing the other people's card was trivial at best, see my thread:

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=11002
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I ran a bunch of sims on 3CP once. I wasn't able to calculate the exact EV of knowing peoples' cards, but I was able to calculate the EV of not knowing ANYONE'S (besides your own) cards and the EV of knowing the dealer's cards directly. To gauge how much of that EV you can gain from partial knowledge, I then calculated the percentage advantage of guessing the dealer's cards based on other's cards. Bottom line: the dealer has a huge number of 3-card combinations, whether it's out of 50 (53 - your 3) or out of 32 (53 - 7*3), and the percentage I calculated was small.

There are a few obvious plays - obviously, if all the aces and kings are in player hands, you play just about anything because the probability of dealer qualifying is really low. But those scenarios come up rarely enough that you can't overcome the house edge on your base bet.

Playing the "pairs or better" bet is even worse - now your spread essentially drops to 3:2 rather than 2:1.
 
blackchipjim

blackchipjim

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three card

I play three card as a diversion from the bj tables all the time. Most places don't hassle you but you are not suppose to share knowledge about your hand. The reason being that if you know others peoples hands you can drop the house edge down a bit by playing a normally bad hand for a push. I won't really get into the paticulars with this theory but it's similiar to seeing one of the dealers down cards. blackchipjim
 
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shadroch

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blackchipjim said:
I play three card as a diversion from the bj tables all the time. Most places don't hassle you but you are not suppose to share knowledge about your hand. The reason being that if you know others peoples hands you can drop the house edge down a bit by playing a normally bad hand for a push. I won't really get into the paticulars with this theory but it's similiar to seeing one of the dealers down cards. blackchipjim
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Where did you ever read this? Seeing one of the dealers cards is huge,seeing every card of every player at a full table is still almost worthless.
If what you were saying is true, you would be better off playing one on one,as you'd know every non-dealer card out there.
 
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Brock Windsor

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Im reasonably sure though not certain that the 3% (or 3.5% on a better pay table) is only on your ante bet. Since you will be raising quite a bit the advantage for your total action is less.
BW
 
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BlodiaInc

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Is there an optimal betting strategy (in terms of units) for TCP? Like how much should you put on the ante and pair plus that will minimize the amount of money you'll lose in the long run (if you can't holecard)?
 
blackchipjim

blackchipjim

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logic used

Any information of hands dealt out can be used to make a decision on wether to hold or fold your hand. Where the biggest advantage is of course the dealers hand (ie. holecarding) the casino takes counter measures to insure that doesn't happen. When a dealer doesn't qualify and you played your hand where you normally would not a push occurs thus information gained can in fact be used. I'm not trying to start an argument or pass on bad information to anyone. I reccomend going to the wizard of odds to find the information on correct play. blackchipjim
 
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