Hi everyone! I've been perusing these forums for a few months now but finally decided to register. I have been counting for about 3 months now. Currently I am using the Hi lo count along with the I18. I made my first trip about 3 weeks ago as an advantage player and my second last week. Over the course of those two trips I am up 50 units ($10 unit) and averaging about $50/hr. My bankroll is $5000 right now so I know betting a 1-8 spread with $10 unit is risky but my bankroll is replenishable. There is only one, maybe two $5 dollar tables in the city where I play and tons of $10 tables. This is why I am playing the $10 min and not the $5.
Now, I am very uncertain as to what spread to use so I don't draw too much heat. This was the spread I used for my first two trips:
TC <= 0 1 unit
+1 2 units
+2 3 units
+3 3 units
+4 4 units
+5 6 units
+6 6 units
+7 8 units
+8 8 units
Now since those two trips I've purchased CVCX to run simulations. According to CVCX for S17, DAS, 6 Deck, 75% penetration the ideal spread to use is:
0 1 unit
+1 3 units
+2 6 units
+3 or greater 8 units
The difference in hourly rate is very significant according to the simulations I have run. My inital spread will profit about $5/hr while the cvcx recommended spread is $15/hr. Big difference, and I do realize my ROR is significantly higher. Now I have quite a few questions on what to use. Here are my concerns:
1. Will going from betting 2 red min to 3 green when the count warrants be too much of a jump? ( I mean I know I can throw out 16 red but I would think 3 green looks less suspicious than a big stack of chips in the circle)
2. If I bet the 80 on +3 or greater will throwing the red chip on the 3 greens make me look more suspicious like I'm trying to hide my greens? Should I just bet three green and round my bet to $75 instead?
3. Is playing lower limits a safer zone for me to get away with quickly jumping up a 1-8 spread?
4. I tried elmiminating too many changes in the spread for the cvcx optimal. I just rounded the 8 unit and 6 unit bets to 7.5 so I can just get three green out on the table and not have too much changing in bet amounts. According to the CVCX data there is only an expected loss of $1/hr to do this. Would this help not drawing too much heat by only having 3 total bet amounts in my spread? ($10, $25, $75)
I don't use any kind of betting/play camo etc. I'm not sure if I should add some camo or not. I know alot of people recommend parlaying and ramping more based on winning or losing the previous hand ( parlaying bets when the count warrants after a win/ decreasing bets only after losses) To me this seems too costly. Any suggestions are helpful. I've just been very confused as to whether I'm being too blatant. I read where some experts recommend play camo, betting camo then I read about experts who say it costs too much money for these camo plays to even make your playing time worth while. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated! =)
Now, I am very uncertain as to what spread to use so I don't draw too much heat. This was the spread I used for my first two trips:
TC <= 0 1 unit
+1 2 units
+2 3 units
+3 3 units
+4 4 units
+5 6 units
+6 6 units
+7 8 units
+8 8 units
Now since those two trips I've purchased CVCX to run simulations. According to CVCX for S17, DAS, 6 Deck, 75% penetration the ideal spread to use is:
0 1 unit
+1 3 units
+2 6 units
+3 or greater 8 units
The difference in hourly rate is very significant according to the simulations I have run. My inital spread will profit about $5/hr while the cvcx recommended spread is $15/hr. Big difference, and I do realize my ROR is significantly higher. Now I have quite a few questions on what to use. Here are my concerns:
1. Will going from betting 2 red min to 3 green when the count warrants be too much of a jump? ( I mean I know I can throw out 16 red but I would think 3 green looks less suspicious than a big stack of chips in the circle)
2. If I bet the 80 on +3 or greater will throwing the red chip on the 3 greens make me look more suspicious like I'm trying to hide my greens? Should I just bet three green and round my bet to $75 instead?
3. Is playing lower limits a safer zone for me to get away with quickly jumping up a 1-8 spread?
4. I tried elmiminating too many changes in the spread for the cvcx optimal. I just rounded the 8 unit and 6 unit bets to 7.5 so I can just get three green out on the table and not have too much changing in bet amounts. According to the CVCX data there is only an expected loss of $1/hr to do this. Would this help not drawing too much heat by only having 3 total bet amounts in my spread? ($10, $25, $75)
I don't use any kind of betting/play camo etc. I'm not sure if I should add some camo or not. I know alot of people recommend parlaying and ramping more based on winning or losing the previous hand ( parlaying bets when the count warrants after a win/ decreasing bets only after losses) To me this seems too costly. Any suggestions are helpful. I've just been very confused as to whether I'm being too blatant. I read where some experts recommend play camo, betting camo then I read about experts who say it costs too much money for these camo plays to even make your playing time worth while. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated! =)