PrinceDragon said:
JSTAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Didn't you have enough "FUN" on Snyder's site???
Nothing personal bro,but PLEASE STOP IT!!!
P.D.
Didn't you have enough "FUN" on Snyder's site???
Nothing personal bro,but PLEASE STOP IT!!!
P.D.
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- Thread starter sneakykid
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I was attacked here by EasyRhino last week. He called my You Tube video "crap" . I have over 90,000 views, so they can't be all that bad. He also said that I ignored side counting aces. That also is not true. What am I supposed to do, sit on my hands?
It's a decent system if you don't mind keeping several different side counts, memorizing extra multi-parameter indices and possibly having an aneurysm at the table. The basic system without the side counts is very ineffective. Even the advanced system isn’t really worth the effort it takes to use. It’s like sharpening a butter knife to cut through leather; It will work slightly better but using a different tool would be much more effective. Here are some sim results for the basic system:
The game was a 6 deck, S17, DAS, DOA, 75% pen, NS, using all of Powersim's defaults.
Result:
JstatII: 1.46% edge, SCORE: 26.86
Hi Lo: 2.03% edge. SCORE: 49.98
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(Note: No side count was performed with Jstat)
A touch disappointing. Perhaps in a deeply dealt, single deck game (with a side count), Jstat would shine. But for table hopping, it appears to be a little anemic.
http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/w-agora/view.php?bn=bjf_forum&key=1212894021
-Sonny-
The game was a 6 deck, S17, DAS, DOA, 75% pen, NS, using all of Powersim's defaults.
Result:
JstatII: 1.46% edge, SCORE: 26.86
Hi Lo: 2.03% edge. SCORE: 49.98
-------------------------
(Note: No side count was performed with Jstat)
A touch disappointing. Perhaps in a deeply dealt, single deck game (with a side count), Jstat would shine. But for table hopping, it appears to be a little anemic.
http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/w-agora/view.php?bn=bjf_forum&key=1212894021
-Sonny-
Having a lot of views doesn't make it a good video. Fixing all of the mistakes would.
http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/w-agora/view.php?site=bjf&bn=bjf_forum&key=1212521847
-Sonny-
http://www.blackjackforumonline.com/w-agora/view.php?site=bjf&bn=bjf_forum&key=1212521847
-Sonny-
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I use combinational analysis and a calculator which is more accurate than computer sims. Using subsets really shows the power of JSTATII over hi-lo. For example, we are playing two hands heads up at single deck. Our first hand is A,A and the second is A,9. The dealer shows an ace and asks for insurance. The hi-lo count is -4, not an insurable count . JSTATII differs because taking insurance is a positive expectation event in this situation. +1 with four aces gone with less than 1/4 deck played takes about +3.5 and above to gain the insurance advantage. 4 aces and +1 equals +5, we take the insurance while the hi-lo player misses out. We can use may subsets to prove the power of JSTATII over hi-lo.
I use combinational analysis and a calculator which is more accurate than computer sims. Using subsets really shows the power of JSTATII over hi-lo. For example, we are playing two hands heads up at single deck. Our first hand is A,A and the second is A,9. The dealer shows an ace and asks for insurance. The hi-lo count is -4, not an insurable count . JSTATII differs because taking insurance is a positive expectation event in this situation. +1 with four aces gone with less than 1/4 deck played takes about +3.5 and above to gain the insurance advantage. 4 aces and +1 equals +5, we take the insurance while the hi-lo player misses out. We can use may subsets to prove the power of JSTATII over hi-lo.
True, but it is also incredibly slower. You would have to do a full CA for every single subset of cards and weight each one properly. That could easily take centuries using a hand calculator. At this rate we will not know anything about your system in our lifetimes. A simulation might only take 30 minutes or less and would still produce reliable results. The sim above probably took less than an hour and it already gives us more information that you have given. It surprises me that you would make such bold claims without sufficient mathematical support.
So how many subsets have you analyzed so far? Which ones? How many more do you have left?
-Sonny-
So how many subsets have you analyzed so far? Which ones? How many more do you have left?
-Sonny-
To be fair, I wasn't attempting to insult you directly, just responding off the cuff to a youtube video from an unknown author. And I will confess that I didn't not analyze the techniques thoroughly in the video. However...
- A ten-count by itself is not a good idea for anyone to learn, unless their ONLY goal is insurace betting (like in conjunction with another counter)
- I wouldn't recommend an ace side count for anyone starting out. Or indeed many experience people.
- I wouldn't recommend a 3 or 4 parameter count for anyone, ever.
- A ten-count by itself is not a good idea for anyone to learn, unless their ONLY goal is insurace betting (like in conjunction with another counter)
- I wouldn't recommend an ace side count for anyone starting out. Or indeed many experience people.
- I wouldn't recommend a 3 or 4 parameter count for anyone, ever.
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