Shuffle Tracking on Youtube (NEW)

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1357111317

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Now I haven't watched this yet but Ill just share my thoughts on it. First off is this is anything like you trying to peddle your count on here this is just going to be flamed. Now if your methods are actually legit and have merit then they definatly should not be on youtube. Lets at least make the casino people work to try and find information on shuffle tracking and not make it as easy as possible for them.
 
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1357111317 said:
Now I haven't watched this yet but Ill just share my thoughts on it. First off is this is anything like you trying to peddle your count on here this is just going to be flamed. Now if your methods are actually legit and have merit then they definatly should not be on youtube. Lets at least make the casino people work to try and find information on shuffle tracking and not make it as easy as possible for them.
I felt like giving this shuffle tracking information on Youtube as a kind gesture. The information is no surprise to the casino industry.
 
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KOLAN said:
funy movies,not proper bet ,
look laik this man spend 20 years for nathing
The goal in this video was to have fun, glad you enjoyed it. I won $200 in the video, so I got something out of it.
 

1357111317

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Well I just watched it. All that needs to be said is that us shuffle trackers don't need to worry about JSTAT spilling our secrets. When was the last time the casino shuffled the good cards face up and let you examine the deck after they had shuffled it.
 
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1357111317 said:
Well I just watched it. All that needs to be said is that us shuffle trackers don't need to worry about JSTAT spilling our secrets. When was the last time the casino shuffled the good cards face up and let you examine the deck after they had shuffled it.
I was teaching the method by turning the tracked cards over for the viewers. Youtube viewers are smart enough to know that cards aren't exposed in real world casino.
 

KOLAN

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JSTAT said:
The goal in this video was to have fun, glad you enjoyed it. I won $200 in the video, so I got something out of it.
BEt yours count is good it is sama laik
any another count laik
23456789TA any count work same no more 2 units in hours
000110000-2
 
#11
KOLAN said:
sorry bet you win becos it it is only mortengale and lack help you.
I had the advantage when I pumped up my bets. It was close to the end of the slug and the bigger bets were needed to make a profit.
 

MoneyPlays

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#12
KOLAN for President

KOLAN said:
funy movies,not proper bet ,
look laik this man spend 20 years for nathing
KOLAN said:
sorry bet you win becos it it is only mortengale and lack help you.
KOLAN said:
BEt yours count is good it is sama laik
any another count laik
23456789TA any count work same no more 2 units in hours
000110000-2
Amazing! KOLAN is starting to make more sense than JSTAT! :eek:

KOLAN, you are the man! :cool:
 

1357111317

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JSTAT said:
I was teaching the method by turning the tracked cards over for the viewers. Youtube viewers are smart enough to know that cards aren't exposed in real world casino.
You didnt teach the method at all. You said look at these 39 consecutive aces and faces. I shuffle them. Look where they are now. Now cut here. Now watch me win. But thats good. Legitamite shuffle tracking advice shouldn't be on youtube.
 
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JSTAT said:
I was teaching the method by turning the tracked cards over for the viewers. Youtube viewers are smart enough to know that cards aren't exposed in real world casino.
I am Moviemakerjjcasinos producer of all the Youtube videos on blackjack. The shuffle tracking video is one of the only videos on Youtube about that specific method. Like you blackjack Fans have any other better ideas!!!!!!!!!!
 

Bojack1

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MovieCasino$$$ said:
I am Moviemakerjjcasinos producer of all the Youtube videos on blackjack. The shuffle tracking video is one of the only videos on Youtube about that specific method. Like you blackjack Fans have any other better ideas!!!!!!!!!!
Anybody who tracks cards like in this video will be poor very soon. I think if this video is the only one of its kind, then there are one too many.

Just a couple of points:

1. The shuffle is not correct of that of the Bellagio or the Mirage. They take from the middle stack on the first pass not the second

2. There will never be a time in a 6 deck 2 pass stepladder shuffle where you could track 39 cards without them being totally diluted beyond a measurable advantage. Even with it being set up with 39 tens and aces only, which will never happen, the track advantage was weak.

3. The video does not teach how to properly gauge the strength of the track and bet accordingly. Its just a guess and a gamble here with some steaming at the end due to losing. If you were winning would you have changed your betting pattern?

4. How much of your track was cut out of play? Did you even consider that when betting? Did you ever consider based on how spread out the track became to not play it, or at least play it differently.

Please any fledgling shuffletrackers, do not use this video as a learning tool, you will not be successful. JSTAT, I don't care if you would've won 10 grand in this video, it would've been imeasurable luck. Actually I take that back, it would've been 100% luck. You don't work for the casinos do you?
 
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Bojack1 said:
Anybody who tracks cards like in this video will be poor very soon. I think if this video is the only one of its kind, then there are one too many.

Just a couple of points:

1. The shuffle is not correct of that of the Bellagio or the Mirage. They take from the middle stack on the first pass not the second

2. There will never be a time in a 6 deck 2 pass stepladder shuffle where you could track 39 cards without them being totally diluted beyond a measurable advantage. Even with it being set up with 39 tens and aces only, which will never happen, the track advantage was weak.

3. The video does not teach how to properly gauge the strength of the track and bet accordingly. Its just a guess and a gamble here with some steaming at the end due to losing. If you were winning would you have changed your betting pattern?

4. How much of your track was cut out of play? Did you even consider that when betting? Did you ever consider based on how spread out the track became to not play it, or at least play it differently.

Please any fledgling shuffletrackers, do not use this video as a learning tool, you will not be successful. JSTAT, I don't care if you would've won 10 grand in this video, it would've been imeasurable luck. Actually I take that back, it would've been 100% luck. You don't work for the casinos do you?
I used the shuffle of the Bellagio and Mirage in the late 90's in the video. Maybe the shuffles have changed since then. I was barred for tracking then. I won in real world casino play and the demonstation in the video reveals how I did it.
 

RJT

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The demonstration in the video reveals how amaturish every piece of information you hand out is. I don't even need to read the rest of your posts to work that out.
You didn't demonstrate any of the practical realities of shuffle tracking, the degree of accuracy you used - which needs to be very high to track successfully - was a non-existent estimate and you show no consideration for bankroll management or betsizing.
The only thing that you did get right in this video is that a slug with more T and A's is better for the player - but anyone who's spent more than 30min reading about counting should know that.
I'll strip this down right now - you haven't made any money counting, if you have been barred anywhere it's not because you were winning money. Trash the fantasy world ego trip and start listening to some of the poster's here that actually know what they're doing - calling Bojack, Maz and Sonny.

RJT.
 

MoneyPlays

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RJT Nailed It

RJT said:
The demonstration in the video reveals how amaturish every piece of information you hand out is. I don't even need to read the rest of your posts to work that out.
You didn't demonstrate any of the practical realities of shuffle tracking, the degree of accuracy you used - which needs to be very high to track successfully - was a non-existent estimate and you show no consideration for bankroll management or betsizing.
The only thing that you did get right in this video is that a slug with more T and A's is better for the player - but anyone who's spent more than 30min reading about counting should know that.
I'll strip this down right now - you haven't made any money counting, if you have been barred anywhere it's not because you were winning money. Trash the fantasy world ego trip and start listening to some of the poster's here that actually know what they're doing - calling Bojack, Maz and Sonny.

RJT.
This is spot on.

JSTAT, seriously dude, you have WANNABE written all over you. You can't fool the pros on here. Hell, you couldn't even fool me. Let's see, whatever could have given it away:

Was it the fact that you stood on 14 vs. a Q?
Or when you failed to take a card on 10-6 vs. a Q?
Maybe because you doubled a bet for no good reason?
Could it have been when you "let it ride" for $400 on a serious negative count?
Perhaps those high quality chips you were using, the ones with the nice plastic sound? You must really be bringing in the money to get those kind of props for your video.
Not to mention the annoying video work, you can't afford a tripod?
And your narration was weak, try rehearsing a little more next time.
I'm sure there's more I missed, but I can't stand to watch it again.

Now, I don't claim to be an expert by any means. The difference is I'm on here to learn from the people who know what they're talking about, not to impress someone with how much I think I know. So to everyone out there trying to learn; "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."

Seriously, go write a novel or something. You'd be good at fiction.
 
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RJT said:
The demonstration in the video reveals how amaturish every piece of information you hand out is. I don't even need to read the rest of your posts to work that out.
You didn't demonstrate any of the practical realities of shuffle tracking, the degree of accuracy you used - which needs to be very high to track successfully - was a non-existent estimate and you show no consideration for bankroll management or betsizing.
The only thing that you did get right in this video is that a slug with more T and A's is better for the player - but anyone who's spent more than 30min reading about counting should know that.
I'll strip this down right now - you haven't made any money counting, if you have been barred anywhere it's not because you were winning money. Trash the fantasy world ego trip and start listening to some of the poster's here that actually know what they're doing - calling Bojack, Maz and Sonny.

RJT.
I demonstrated the actual shuffling procedure of the Bellagio before I was barred from playing in the 90's for shuffle tracking. Frank Sinatra is singing "Fly Me To The Moon" and "I Got You Under My Skin" in the video. A winning combination. Maybe someone on this website can make a better video and post it on Youtube:confused:, since you all seem to know it all.
 
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