So tell me zengrifter.....

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groovey

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I read your article the zengrifter interveiw, was Lawrence Revere a real rogue type person?

About ten years ago I picked up his book playing blackjack as a business, and called Vegas and spoke to Mary? I guess it's his daughter and inquried about lesson and was told lessons were unavailable!

I find it strange that no pictures of Revere are on the web, just his book.


One finale question sir, I live here in upstate NY, 1/2 away from the Turning Stone Casino, all that's available here are 8d 75% pentration S17 doubles on any two cards and no surrender whats so ever am I wasting my time trying to learn KO Rookie or prefered, under these conditions?


Thanks zengrifter :)
 
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dacium

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Lets just say you are wasting your time unless you have a bank roll of about $15,000. Assuming you want to make $10 per hour. If you want to make more than this you will need an ever bigger bank role. 75% ain't really good enough for an 8 deck game.
 
EasyRhino

EasyRhino

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You'd have to wong around the casino with the shoe games. Don't forget you've also got the two Seneca casinos upstate, with similar rules.

But if you backcount the tables and only play in positive counts, you've got a shot. I'm a KO'er itself, and it's workable. As mentioned in the "8d with .47 house edge" thread, KO might have you wonging in late in a shoe when you don't really have an advantage, but it still, in general, works.
 
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Reno Dude

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EasyRhino said:
You'd have to wong around the casino with the shoe games. Don't forget you've also got the two Seneca casinos upstate, with similar rules.

But if you backcount the tables and only play in positive counts, you've got a shot. I'm a KO'er itself, and it's workable. As mentioned in the "8d with .47 house edge" thread, KO might have you wonging in late in a shoe when you don't really have an advantage, but it still, in general, works.
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What is "KO"?
 
Sonny

Sonny

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groovey said:
I guess it's his daughter and inquried about lesson and was told lessons were unavailable!
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I believe he passed away 30 years ago from lung and liver cancer.

groovey said:
I find it strange that no pictures of Revere are on the web, just his book.
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Pictures of Revere (aka Griffith K. Owens, Paul Mann, Leonard "Specs" Parsons and who knows what else) are tough to find, but his picture is in the BJ Hall of Fame and in the documentary "The Hot Shoe" by David Layton. There are also a few photos floating aroung the Gambler's Book Shop.

-Sonny-
 
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Mimosine

Mimosine

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groovey said:
One finale question sir, I live here in upstate NY, 1/2 away from the Turning Stone Casino, all that's available here are 8d 75% pentration S17 doubles on any two cards and no surrender whats so ever am I wasting my time trying to learn KO Rookie or prefered, under these conditions?
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the rules aren't that bad. if it was a H17 game with no surrender, then I personally would only play it with heavy wonging.

learn more than KO rookie, at least 2 levels of bets (e.g. 1X, 2X at key count and max bet at pivot point) and insurance and the top 4-5 index plays. it isn't that much harder. also learn what the wong-in points for 8D are using KO.
 
ChefJJ

ChefJJ

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groovey said:
One finale question sir, I live here in upstate NY, 1/2 away from the Turning Stone Casino, all that's available here are 8d 75% pentration S17 doubles on any two cards and no surrender whats so ever am I wasting my time trying to learn KO Rookie or prefered, under these conditions?
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What's your goal for playing there? Minor recreation with long-term small winnings, OR making a living at it?

If it's the former, the rules don't seem bad, and beatable in the long run...if it's the latter, listen to the other guys on that.

good luck
 
zengrifter

zengrifter

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Sonny said:
Pictures of Revere (aka Griffith K. Owens, Paul Mann, Leonard "Specs" Parsons and who knows what else) are tough to find, but his picture is in the BJ Hall of Fame and in the documentary "The Hot Shoe" by David Layton. There are also a few photos floating aroung the Gambler's Book Shop.
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Here, Lawrence Revere. I expected him to look like James Bond until he answered his front door the first time! zg

Lawrence Revere 1975

 
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