So,what is your biggest losing streak?

shadroch

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#1
While fairly new to the idea of advantage BJ,I have played the game for a number of years.I honestly don't think I've ever lost ten hands in a row in a casino. I have on simulators,but not in real casinos.My recent Vegas trip,I never lost five in a row,although I did lose three DDs in a row twice.
I'd be quite interested in reading what my fellow forumites have experianced in terms of their longest losing streaks.I know anything is possible if you play long enough.This trip I split As and was dealt two more As but won the hand when dealer busted. Few hands later,I split and ended up with 2 21s only to tie the dealers 6 card 21.
Anyone want to share?
 

Mikeaber

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#3
I have not kept such records Shadroch but over the years, I have had many experiences with long streaks of losing hands (I try to forget them!). Same with winning. It evens out after a while to where you will have lost slightly more than you have won.
 

SystemsTrader

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#4
While I don't count my W & L in a casino I estimate I've lost 8 hands in a row a few times. Playing against simulators I know I've lost 11 hands in a row multiple times.
 

ScottH

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#6
supercoolmancool said:
I have lost 10 in a row countless times on the internet and I don't keep track at real casinos but I know I have lost 10 in a row before.
It's impossible to lose 10 hands in a row. Just ask Homer, the martingale player! :laugh:
 

Mikeaber

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#7
ScottH said:
It's impossible to lose 10 hands in a row. Just ask Homer, the martingale player! :laugh:
I get your point Scott, however, to give credit to Homer, I think he altered that to state that where he played with $5 - $500 tables, you couldn't lose over 6 doubled bets in a row without exceeding the table limits. Though I haven't documented them, I do know that I have experienced streaks of both loses and wins that exceed 10 hands!

5 + 10 + 20 + 40 + 80 + 160 + 320 = $635. Thats 6 hands below the $500 limit plus the seventh hand to put you over the limit.
 

ScottH

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#8
Mikeaber said:
I get your point Scott, however, to give credit to Homer, I think he altered that to state that where he played with $5 - $500 tables, you couldn't lose over 6 doubled bets in a row without exceeding the table limits. Though I haven't documented them, I do know that I have experienced streaks of both loses and wins that exceed 10 hands!

5 + 10 + 20 + 40 + 80 + 160 + 320 = $635. Thats 6 hands below the $500 limit plus the seventh hand to put you over the limit.
I was partially joking. I wasn't trying to make fun of homer, I just said that because it related to that other thread that Homer started.

I know I must come across like an ass when I talk about martingale players, but I do that to try get the point across. I was once a martingale player, and I learned my lesson, but it was a very expensive one. I'm trying to help others learn the same lesson, only make it a lot less costly to them! That's why I always say, "Quit while you're ahead!"
 

shadroch

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#9
I think most gamblers try the martingale experiment,at least once.It seems so simple.My first time using it on Sic Bo,I kicked ass big time.It was a $1 table so you could lose 5,6 times in a row without getting hurt so bad-$1,2,4,8,16,32,64.I thought the bonuses you get from doubles and triples(2X your bet on a double,3X on a triple) gave you a small edge.I remember I kept getting doubles on my big bets and really kicked ass. Thought the world was mine.... for about 3 hours. Won 500 my first session.It also was my only winning session.After several losing sessions,I found a internet site that corrected my wrongful thinking.
But I still remember that giddy feeling,sure that I had discovered the key to the vaults.
 

Mikeaber

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#10
It's very difficult to steer people away from Martingale, Scott. I know that when I first started playing, I "invented" the Martingale system too. It just seems so logically unbeatable. And, it almost is if you have unlimited table maximums and a virtually unlimited bankroll. No one, however has those two factors. And if they did, anyone with that budget would not be willing to put everything at risk to come out one minimum bet ahead.

However, it usually takes someone who refuses to listen to those who understand the math of Blackjack to actually go to the tables and go for it. Usually, you never hear from them again.
 
#11
ScottH said:
... I was once a martingale player, and I learned my lesson, but it was a very expensive one. I'm trying to help others learn the same lesson, only make it a lot less costly to them! That's why I always say, "Quit while you're ahead!"
Progressions are one of those things that pop into the head of an intelligent person when playing a game. Hopefully they pop right back out.

It reminds me of a certain thing in stock investing. Probably everyone who has traded stocks with a dividend-aware technique has come up with the brilliant idea of buying a stock the day before the ex-div date and selling it the next day. That way you collect 3 months of dividends in one day, and you can put your money down on some other stock tomorrow, do the same thing. Only problem is, stock prices adjust to compensate for the dividend amount, so you will lose back in sale price what you gained in dividend. Drat, it was such a good idea too!

That's not to say there is no place for this kind of investing! Some stocks traditionally over or undercompensate and that can be exploited, and day traders can use ex-div dates to create exploitable volatility and liquidity. You can also reverse the process and short the stock before the ex-div date. You reap the benefit in the sales price immediately, and although you have to pay an equivalent amount of dividend, the dividend due date is usually weeks to months after the ex-div, so you have free usage of that money in the meantime. For what it's worth.

Likewise, progressions have a place. They can be useful for playing certain types of bonuses and promotions, and for those planning on committing marker fraud. But I also believe in being very stern with those who suggest they are good for normal cash play.
 
#12
I was playing at gold coast last week in vegas - A guy came to the table with $10 bills and insisted on playing cash.

He lost 14 straight hands.... his had $150. He left with $10.
 

dacium

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#13
I have seen massive streaks in other games like roulette. I once saw a streak of 18 blacks while I was doing a swap martinagle (alternating from black to red to black reguardless of if i won or not), because I stupidly thought a run of red black red black red black red black red black etc. would never happen in real life. Anyway as expected I was routinely able to win small amount until I blew the whole lot. In the end I decided to push my luck and keep going. I made 5$ bets doubling if I lost 2 in a row and won 100$ 16 times and lost 1280$ once, so I came out ahead by being lucky enough not to run into my second big bust.

In blackjack at a real casino I have never lost more than 8 in a row. I remember this because I always try to track how high and low I go and it was one night I sat down at a new shoe and lost the first 8 hands, one was a pair of threes I split and doubled on one of them, only to see the dealer hit 21. But that is the worst streak I have had.
 

ihate17

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#14
22 or was it 23

It was either 22 or 23 hands in a row, not sure of the actual number. Happened on 3 different tables. First two, count goes up, place fairly big bets out, lose, lose, lose......, count goes down, wong out, go to another table and the same exact them happens. Go to dinner, come back and lose the first 6 at the next table. Finish that evening up $2,500. Since, my minimum bet was $25 at the time, I have never bothered to figure what my martingale bet would have been for hand 23 or 24. No reason to figure it because I know what my bankroll is.

I had another two streaks around 20 in my life and perhaps over 100 of 10 or more. Does not mean that I am used to them but experience has taught me that it will happen and I can often overcome them quickly.

ihate17
 

ortango

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#16
Bad Streak

Hi all, I'm new. Been enjoying the forum but had to join to share my bad streak I had on a Carnival Cruise boat 2 years ago. I lost somewhere around 30 hands in a row. I don't remember the rules but they probably weren't the best, being a cruise. Despite that, I won over $600 over the 3 day cruise and was giddy for making most of the cruise costs back. My wife was with me when I lost the entire thing in the last 20 mins, as we watched the dealer beat everything I had. A couple times I got so frustrated I played again BS just to see if things would change. But I couldn't beat her once. Im sure the odds of this was equivalent of winning the lottery but I was the unlucky guy that "won" it.:cry:
 

Brutus

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#17
30 in a row?
that should have been videotaped, and sent to candid camera.
I would have been looking for the hidden camera
 
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Brutus

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#19
can you imagine doubling after each loss?
"uhh... my martingale book says double... this hand lets make it some thing like the national debt... that should get me back in the chips for sure"
 
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ScottH

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#20
Brutus said:
can you imagine doubling after each loss?
"uhh... my martingale book says double... this hand lets make it some thing like the national debt... that should get me back in the chips for sure"
Starting from 1 dollar, a martingale player would need to bet 1,073,741,824 dollars to break even after losing 30 straight hands! Then you get that trillion dollar chip out and bet it and get 88 vs 7! :laugh:
 
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