Table games in Pittsburgh, PA

[Phoenix Rising]

I began to think the double shoes is just a misunderstanding. It is just one shoe in automatic shuffle machine and the other shoe in playing.

No, that's not correct.

 

[RightClawSouth]

...The only thing that looks troubling is that mention and description of possible double shoe. By the description looks like there would be 2 dealing shoes on the table with 2 seperate discard racks to keep the cards seperated, but that one round could be dealt from one shoe and the next round dealt from the second shoe. ... You would need to keep track of two seperate counts simultaneously. ...

I've backcounted adjacent tables plenty of times. Even counted one I was playing and an adjacent table when they're close enough and the view was not obstructed. Just takes a little practice, and you may want to drop your ace sidecount in that circumstance.

The real problem is that the count could be high in one shoe and low in the other and then you'd be alternating between big and small bets many times which would be pretty obvious.

 

[Phoenix Rising]

If you look in the table games document (the same one that mandates S17 and LS for all blackjack tables) it says that the cut is to be approximately 1/4 of the decks, so I'm going to assume you'll see 75% +/- a few percent one way or the other.

Not quite correct. The regulations state: "insert the cutting card in the stack at a position at least approximately one-quarter of the way in from the bottom of the stack".

Which means PA casinos are free to cut off as many decks at they care to; as long as they cut off at least 1/4 of the pack.

 

[BJgenius007]

Almost all dealers are new. Most of them have difficulty to pick up 8 decks at the same time to put it into the box. So they cut the deck as deep as possible to avoid embarrassing themselves. Last night I saw one dealer played 7+ deck until less than one deck left (90% penetration?). At that table, everybody left with at least two thousand dollars richer. It is $15 table.

Just a little update. I went to The Meadows again yesterday evening. And once again I won. Since Thursday opening, I won every day here. And this is the first time I had some heat. I don't know if it was towards me because all my tablemates were winning, including the idiot stays at soft 17 and never splits or doubles. The casino bump the table minimal from $10 to $25 and it took effect in 15 minutes. The table was full with 6 people. All six left to play in other $10 tables once the minimal was rasied. I was sitting in nearby table and noticed that it took about 20 minutes for new people to play at this $25 table.

 

[blackchipjim]

Presque Isle

I was there sunday the 19th and what a zoo, the only thing missing was the clowns weren't in uniform. I know it was a mistake but had to scout out the area for playablility. They chop off half the shoe which is really wierd because I heard people complaining that they are constantly pulling a new shoe out of asms all the time wasting playing time. I went right smack in the middle of the afternoon so I can't tell you about other times. I plan on going back to make sure that the conditions are what I thought. I would guess that wonging in is only way to beat the game but the green chip games have no mid entry.

 

[bj bob]

A golden opportunity

However, the pit boss has no idea how surrender works. So you have to yell to the dealer "surrender" right away after he dealt all the cards.

Take advantage of that situation by yelling "surrender" when she shows an Ace. If they no nothing about surrender, then they obviously don't know the difference between ES and LS. If they do ask you, just tell them that all the players have 3 seconds to call for surrender with an Ace up; otherwise, it's late surrender. :grin:

 

[BJgenius007]

Take advantage of that situation by yelling "surrender" when she shows an Ace. If they no nothing about surrender, then they obviously don't know the difference between ES and LS. If they do ask you, just tell them that all the players have 3 seconds to call for surrender with an Ace up; otherwise, it's late surrender. :grin:

Last night I visited Wheeling Island again. They have figured out how surrender works. So it is now no different from any other casino.