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I am just going to run through this all again in simple terms and also add a few things I forgot to include originally, which answer questions that I have since recieved.

Dealer BJ - What to do:

Each and every time the dealer gets a BJ, you drop your bet by one unit. If you are already at your base bet then you stay at your base bet.

Player BJ - What to do:

Whenever you get a BJ you are going to check your buy-in/bankroll pile.

1. If you are still down money in your buy-in pile from where you started, then you increase your bet by one unit.

2. If you get a BJ which returns your buy-in pile to full or greater than full, then you drop your bet to your base unit. (If - for example - your bet is eight units, then after getting your buy-in back you drop your bet completely down to one unit after getting your money back. Any money over the size of your bankroll goes in to your winnings pile.)

Some conditions:

I had one guy post in my original thread that he tested $5 base bets with a $200 buy-in and lost all of it. My apologies all! I just used the $200 buy-in as an example. You should have at least $600 to be able to repeat the process endlessly. I would recommend just starting any game with $1000. Sometimes the streaks can be up and down and just nasty, but if you stick with it with a large enough bankroll you will get it all back.

Another question presented is what to do when both player and Dealer get a BJ. The answer is to do nothing. Always keep your bet at the same level when this happens, don't even look at your bankroll.

Remember that any money over and above your buy-in goes in to your winnings pile. Always keep that money seperate. When you are testing on a computer game, write down your bankroll to start. Say $5000. Then as you go through the process and when you win your money back with profit on top, write down your new bankroll which for example I will say is $5027.50. So write that down and when you get that money back write down your new total which could be $5070.00. And so on and so forth, etc., etc., etc..

If you take this strategy to the casino and you leave the table down money, you have to then win your money back in smaller chunks when you sit down to a new table or the same table a day later. I recommend you try to win it back at 20x your base bet and no more. The beauty is that even during a dealer hot streak, you will have short hot streaks. Your short hot streaks should be adequate to win you back that 20x base amount.

That is all I can think to include. Now I am going to submit my strategy to the Wizard of Odds to win $20,000. Why? Because whether you guys want to believe me or not, I did far more than adequately test the strategy. It works!

Licentia.
 
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Licentia said:
I had one guy post in my original thread that he tested $5 base bets with a $200 buy-in and lost all of it. My apologies all! I just used the $200 buy-in as an example. You should have at least $600 to be able to repeat the process endlessly. I would recommend just starting any game with $1000. Sometimes the streaks can be up and down and just nasty, but if you stick with it with a large enough bankroll you will get it all back.
What I want to say about my quote above, is that I would never buy in for more than $200 at a real casino table. But obviously if I used up that $200 I would pull more out of my wallet to play. On a computer game however, you need to have at least $600 to start and like I said I recommend $1000.

Please let me know how you do and please continue to ask me questions if you have them!

Licentia.
 

Reno Dude

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Licentia said:
I am just going to run through this all again in simple terms and also add a few things I forgot to include originally, which answer questions that I have since recieved.

Dealer BJ - What to do:

Each and every time the dealer gets a BJ, you drop your bet by one unit. If you are already at your base bet then you stay at your base bet.

Player BJ - What to do:

Whenever you get a BJ you are going to check your buy-in/bankroll pile.

1. If you are still down money in your buy-in pile from where you started, then you increase your bet by one unit.

2. If you get a BJ which returns your buy-in pile to full or greater than full, then you drop your bet to your base unit. (If - for example - your bet is eight units, then after getting your buy-in back you drop your bet completely down to one unit after getting your money back. Any money over the size of your bankroll goes in to your winnings pile.)

Some conditions:

I had one guy post in my original thread that he tested $5 base bets with a $200 buy-in and lost all of it. My apologies all! I just used the $200 buy-in as an example. You should have at least $600 to be able to repeat the process endlessly. I would recommend just starting any game with $1000. Sometimes the streaks can be up and down and just nasty, but if you stick with it with a large enough bankroll you will get it all back.

Another question presented is what to do when both player and Dealer get a BJ. The answer is to do nothing. Always keep your bet at the same level when this happens, don't even look at your bankroll.

Remember that any money over and above your buy-in goes in to your winnings pile. Always keep that money seperate. When you are testing on a computer game, write down your bankroll to start. Say $5000. Then as you go through the process and when you win your money back with profit on top, write down your new bankroll which for example I will say is $5027.50. So write that down and when you get that money back write down your new total which could be $5070.00. And so on and so forth, etc., etc., etc..

If you take this strategy to the casino and you leave the table down money, you have to then win your money back in smaller chunks when you sit down to a new table or the same table a day later. I recommend you try to win it back at 20x your base bet and no more. The beauty is that even during a dealer hot streak, you will have short hot streaks. Your short hot streaks should be adequate to win you back that 20x base amount.

That is all I can think to include. Now I am going to submit my strategy to the Wizard of Odds to win $20,000. Why? Because whether you guys want to believe me or not, I did far more than adequately test the strategy. It works!

Licentia.

How often have you played in a real casino using your winning strategy? What were the results?
 
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Reno Dude said:
How often have you played in a real casino using your winning strategy? What were the results?
Like I said in my last thread I won a bunch of money with this in the casino in the city where I started. Then I moved to a new city, I wasn't playing according to my rules - trying to predict times when the BJs would come and increasing my bet and then finding they didn't come - and by the time I started gambling in the new city I had $700 to gamble with. I knew it wasn't enough.

My best day in the first city was $325 and I averaged probably $150 a day on $5 base bets on one betting circle.

One day I messed up bad in the first city. I started playing two spots at $10 base bets. I didn't have the bankroll for that and I had to stop before I won my money back. That was a dumb move that really hurt me. I lost almost $700 from that dumb play. But all in all in 2.5 weeks in the first city I won well over $2000.
 

Reno Dude

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Licentia said:
Like I said in my last thread I won a bunch of money with this in the casino in the city where I started. Then I moved to a new city, I wasn't playing according to my rules - trying to predict times when the BJs would come and increasing my bet and then finding they didn't come - and by the time I started gambling in the new city I had $700 to gamble with. I knew it wasn't enough.

My best day in the first city was $325 and I averaged probably $150 a day on $5 base bets on one betting circle.

One day I messed up bad in the first city. I started playing two spots at $10 base bets. I didn't have the bankroll for that and I had to stop before I won my money back. That was a dumb move that really hurt me. I lost almost $700 from that dumb play. But all in all in 2.5 weeks in the first city I won well over $2000.

I wouldnt consider winning only $325 a good day
 
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Reno Dude said:
I wouldnt consider winning only $325 a good day
$5 base bets. How much would you consider a good day Card Counting on $5 base bets? I have only used Ace/Five in a casino and only to help anticipate BJs coming.
 

shadroch

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Licentia said:
It is only a couple hours. Less than that probably. Just see how you get your money back. All you have to do is see it happen once. Then you will understand.
Please don't get the idea that I'm giving any credit to your system,which I think is total hooey. I'm just commenting that $325 profit for a few hours is not a bad day.
 
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shadroch said:
Please don't get the idea that I'm giving any credit to your system,which I think is total hooey. I'm just commenting that $325 profit for a few hours is not a bad day.
I thought it was a good day. Of course if someone is betting quarters then things will be different for sure.
 

Reno Dude

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Licentia said:
I thought it was a good day. Of course if someone is betting quarters then things will be different for sure.
I have a new strategy for everyone to try. My book will be out later this year.
I just got home from a session playing a fool proof system.
Here's how it works....
I went to the local casino that I go to at least 2 nights a week.
First I went and had a nice steak dinner which I paid for with comps.
After dinner I made my way to the BJ table and started playing buying in with $100.
Now the waitress comes by and I order a double rum and coke. I continue to order double rum and cokes every time a waitress is near with a shot thrown in once in a while.
WahLah....3 hours later I cash out $500 in chips and call a taxy to take me home.
 
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I forgot to add a few details to this thread.

For starters I tested this strategy with these rules:

6 decks, DAS, DA2, Resplit up to 4 hands, No resplit of aces.

Also very important! Do Not Use Surrender. It won't work!

BJs need to pay 3 to 2 or better.
 
#18
imo, double that at at least

Reno Dude said:
How often have you played in a real casino using your winning strategy? What were the results?
why the hell would we test a strategy in the casino? that is extremely stupid.. if it doesnt work "on paper" then it wont work in the casino over the long run.. you are lucky licentia, but sadly, when your luck runs out, im sure you will either 1. lie to us or 2. claim that a move from city to city is why you lost, or your shoe wasnt tied, and that was affecting the dealer getting bj or something.. run your system thru a sim, and it will come out to EXACTLY how effectively you play basic strategy, meaning if you play perfect bs, then your losses will be total initial bets * house edge * hands played

Licentia said:
Also very important! Do Not Use Surrender. It won't work!
why are you even a part of this forum? seriously.. notice how there arent many people on here who say "nope, your wrong, im right", and that conflicts usually get resolved in mathematically sane fasion? they get resolved because we all believe in the same thing, and are all on the same page.. you on the other hand are off in space using your "indicators" and progressive nonsense.. there is ZERO difference between reno dude's mock strategy and yours.. like i just said, the shitty thing is you will never say "ya, it doesnt work", because just like ploppies, you will find a reason why you lost, instead of blaming yourself.. also, if you lost $1000 over the next week, that STILL wouldnt prove your system did or didnt work, it would just be variance..

you claim 100,000 hands? you have used this system for what? less than 100 days? lets just make it 100 days to be generous.. thats 1000 hands per day for 100 days, which is 10 hours per day for 100 days straight playing at a table with only 1-2 other people.. so clearly your lying when you say 100,000+.. you havent even played 10,000 hands, so your "proof" means NOTHING!
 
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SilentBob420BMFJ said:
imo, double that at at least



why the hell would we test a strategy in the casino? that is extremely stupid.. if it doesnt work "on paper" then it wont work in the casino over the long run.. you are lucky licentia, but sadly, when your luck runs out, im sure you will either 1. lie to us or 2. claim that a move from city to city is why you lost, or your shoe wasnt tied, and that was affecting the dealer getting bj or something.. run your system thru a sim, and it will come out to EXACTLY how effectively you play basic strategy, meaning if you play perfect bs, then your losses will be total initial bets * house edge * hands played
Why lie? How can I get credit for creating a strategy that beats the casino if it doesn't beat the casino? Why waste my time? I want recognition!!! I want people to test it properly and say that it works. I didn't test it in the casino. I knew it worked so I played it in a casino. I am not selling anything. There is not a sim in the world that would run my strategy.


SilentBob420BMFJ said:
why are you even a part of this forum? seriously.. notice how there arent many people on here who say "nope, your wrong, im right", and that conflicts usually get resolved in mathematically sane fasion? they get resolved because we all believe in the same thing, and are all on the same page.. you on the other hand are off in space using your "indicators" and progressive nonsense.. there is ZERO difference between reno dude's mock strategy and yours.. like i just said, the shitty thing is you will never say "ya, it doesnt work", because just like ploppies, you will find a reason why you lost, instead of blaming yourself.. also, if you lost $1000 over the next week, that STILL wouldnt prove your system did or didnt work, it would just be variance..

you claim 100,000 hands? you have used this system for what? less than 100 days? lets just make it 100 days to be generous.. thats 1000 hands per day for 100 days, which is 10 hours per day for 100 days straight playing at a table with only 1-2 other people.. so clearly your lying when you say 100,000+.. you havent even played 10,000 hands, so your "proof" means NOTHING!
Dude, it works. If I ever find that it doesn't then I have wasted my time and yours and I will drop the topic and apologize. Trust me, I have much better things to do with my time. If it doesn't work it will be proven soon enough.

It's as though you guys think that I am making money off posting on this forum. Every post I make $100 or so people must think. Wow I should just post here full time then and quit my day job!

I really loved spending 20+ hours trying to create and upload video of my strategy. I had nothing better to do! :cry:

Licentia.
 
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if you want recognition, tell us about your super secret system! btw, you should strike up a conversation with skyboy or jstarzid, you guys would get along great, and could exchange many "free ideas".. nobody will ever agree with you on here except perhaps those 2 and maybe a few others, because your system is based on your personal results, which mean nothing.. oh wait thats right, its based on "math" aka you have "tested it thoroughly" aka meaningless ****.. you crack me up..
 
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