The best way to play without giving your name???
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moos
That is one sure way of getting into real trouble... using fake id.
What is the matter with your real name...are you embarrased to use it?
CP
mooshjack said:
I am under 21, but i can go to 18+ casinos and play, like the Indian casinos in Michigan. I don't really want to give them my real name, but since i'm young i have to show ID. I wanna get my play rated.. Any LEGAL suggestions??
What is the matter with your real name...are you embarrased to use it?
CP
Confusion...
john,
I think we defined this differently. He said he wanted to be "rated", I said why? That doesn't mean not playing or playing with a player's card, not what I meant. I was referring to actually being "rated" by the house as a "skilled player" or better. That's the part you can do without as it will affect your comps...
The better at the game you appear to be, the different "#" you are rated. The higher the rating, the less $ the house feels they can take from you per hr, so they are not going to give you as much back. This is what I was referring to.
john,
I think we defined this differently. He said he wanted to be "rated", I said why? That doesn't mean not playing or playing with a player's card, not what I meant. I was referring to actually being "rated" by the house as a "skilled player" or better. That's the part you can do without as it will affect your comps...
The better at the game you appear to be, the different "#" you are rated. The higher the rating, the less $ the house feels they can take from you per hr, so they are not going to give you as much back. This is what I was referring to.
I stand corrected
Wow Blue, I guess I always used the term wrong then, sorry. I always used it to designate a skill level, sorry - my bad. One of these days I'm going to have to jump to the other side and take a good look at that computer system I guess. I know of only one place that will let me, gonna have to see exactly what's there...
Thanks for the correction!
Wow Blue, I guess I always used the term wrong then, sorry. I always used it to designate a skill level, sorry - my bad. One of these days I'm going to have to jump to the other side and take a good look at that computer system I guess. I know of only one place that will let me, gonna have to see exactly what's there...
Thanks for the correction!
I thought so...
Excerpted from World Game Protection, quoted by MGM Surveillance Head Ron Buono, discussing "Blackjack Survey" software and it's use:
Probably the "cut to the chase" piece of information that the survey provides is the mathematical edge the house has (or doesn't have) over the individual player. This is the money ball. If the player's skill level reveals they have an edge over the house - the casino has a decision to make. Each assessment is handled on a case-by-case basis. Managements reaction can range from backing the player off, adjusting player comp entitlements or doing nothing.
I thought they adjusted comps based on skill... I've had it happen in the past, or thought so. Now I know.
Excerpted from World Game Protection, quoted by MGM Surveillance Head Ron Buono, discussing "Blackjack Survey" software and it's use:
Probably the "cut to the chase" piece of information that the survey provides is the mathematical edge the house has (or doesn't have) over the individual player. This is the money ball. If the player's skill level reveals they have an edge over the house - the casino has a decision to make. Each assessment is handled on a case-by-case basis. Managements reaction can range from backing the player off, adjusting player comp entitlements or doing nothing.
I thought they adjusted comps based on skill... I've had it happen in the past, or thought so. Now I know.
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My thoughts on this are why is an 18-year-old kid lurking about casinos? There are many other things that an 18 year old needs to be doing to assure their future, such as educational pursuits that would leave little time for much else. Next of all, just how much bankroll does an 18 or 19 year old have on hand to invest?
A short bankroll is the number 1 reason people fail at this ballgame. As taught in any small business class, the primary reason for the over 60% of all small business failures starting up is lack of start up capitol, with the rule of thumb being "have enough capitol to cover any and all overhead for at least 6 months without bringing in your first dime". A grueling negative swing can last for a long time, for months even. Did you deliver enough newspapers or flip enough burgers to float that?
This brings me to the next reason people fail at the AP ballgame--- experience. A lack of experience combined with a very ridiculously POSITIVE swing early in your "want to be an AP" career can make you feel invincible... unbeatable... just on top of the world even! This can cause the inexperienced player to play in a manner that puts their ROR higher than it ought to be and add just a few ugly mistakes or lack of judgment to that situation and you could be headed for disaster before you even know what the hell hit you. The casinos eat these people up for breakfast and think nothing of it... after all, they are there to whack you for all it's worth and they have the upper hand. It takes a shrewd hustler to hustle the hustlers!
Most rational 18-21 year olds are thinking about college or in college and not thinking about slumming about casinos and CERTAINLY not thinking about how to break laws by trying to use false ID. In Atlantic City they will relieve you of your chips, arrest you and if you have the right sort of young boyish appeal your cellmates will wish to reenact scenes from "Deliverance" with you, leaving you thinking "Gee, I could have played it a bit differently and been going to the University of Michigan right now instead of being asked to squeal like a pig".
I realize this all sounds pretty dismal and the worst-case scenario but "look before you leap". This is a tough racket and only the best survive... this is no joke, no fooling around. At 18-21 age range, you have your whole life ahead of you and this is a critical timeframe in which your decisions right now have a huge impact on what happens to you for the rest of your life career wise. You have LOTS of time to evaluate playing some blackjack and make all preparations to do it correctly, logically and at the best possible advantage for you instead of "half-cocked" and at more risk than you should put yourself in. Those casinos don't have all those well-paid employees and that huge lighting bill because everyone wins.
My thoughts on this are why is an 18-year-old kid lurking about casinos? There are many other things that an 18 year old needs to be doing to assure their future, such as educational pursuits that would leave little time for much else. Next of all, just how much bankroll does an 18 or 19 year old have on hand to invest?
A short bankroll is the number 1 reason people fail at this ballgame. As taught in any small business class, the primary reason for the over 60% of all small business failures starting up is lack of start up capitol, with the rule of thumb being "have enough capitol to cover any and all overhead for at least 6 months without bringing in your first dime". A grueling negative swing can last for a long time, for months even. Did you deliver enough newspapers or flip enough burgers to float that?
This brings me to the next reason people fail at the AP ballgame--- experience. A lack of experience combined with a very ridiculously POSITIVE swing early in your "want to be an AP" career can make you feel invincible... unbeatable... just on top of the world even! This can cause the inexperienced player to play in a manner that puts their ROR higher than it ought to be and add just a few ugly mistakes or lack of judgment to that situation and you could be headed for disaster before you even know what the hell hit you. The casinos eat these people up for breakfast and think nothing of it... after all, they are there to whack you for all it's worth and they have the upper hand. It takes a shrewd hustler to hustle the hustlers!
Most rational 18-21 year olds are thinking about college or in college and not thinking about slumming about casinos and CERTAINLY not thinking about how to break laws by trying to use false ID. In Atlantic City they will relieve you of your chips, arrest you and if you have the right sort of young boyish appeal your cellmates will wish to reenact scenes from "Deliverance" with you, leaving you thinking "Gee, I could have played it a bit differently and been going to the University of Michigan right now instead of being asked to squeal like a pig".
I realize this all sounds pretty dismal and the worst-case scenario but "look before you leap". This is a tough racket and only the best survive... this is no joke, no fooling around. At 18-21 age range, you have your whole life ahead of you and this is a critical timeframe in which your decisions right now have a huge impact on what happens to you for the rest of your life career wise. You have LOTS of time to evaluate playing some blackjack and make all preparations to do it correctly, logically and at the best possible advantage for you instead of "half-cocked" and at more risk than you should put yourself in. Those casinos don't have all those well-paid employees and that huge lighting bill because everyone wins.
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