The dumbest thing you have ever seen at the table
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How is splitting 10's vs. A better than splitting tens vs. 10? 
From bjmath.com's ev tables I get a greater loss in ev splitting tens vs 10.
I was surprised at how close the two plays are in loss of ev but nevertheless suffice it say that neither play would ever be acceptable as cover. Way too costly. I guess your definition of "fair" is different from mine.
From bjmath.com's ev tables I get a greater loss in ev splitting tens vs 10.I was surprised at how close the two plays are in loss of ev but nevertheless suffice it say that neither play would ever be acceptable as cover. Way too costly. I guess your definition of "fair" is different from mine.
HockeXpert said:
How is splitting 10's vs. A better than splitting tens vs. 10? From bjmath.com's ev tables I get a greater loss in ev splitting tens vs 10.
I was surprised at how close the two plays are in loss of ev but nevertheless suffice it say that neither play would ever be acceptable as cover. Way too costly. I guess your definition of "fair" is different from mine.
From bjmath.com's ev tables I get a greater loss in ev splitting tens vs 10.I was surprised at how close the two plays are in loss of ev but nevertheless suffice it say that neither play would ever be acceptable as cover. Way too costly. I guess your definition of "fair" is different from mine.
Facing an A up there's a guarantee that there's no 10 in the hole.
Anecdotally, it seems to me that the instance of hand washing among casino patrons is significantly lower than in the general population - at least in the men's room, to which my own experience is limited. I'm not sure if this is a symptom of the "nothing left to lose" mentality, a passive aggressive strike at "the man" and other players, or just the desire to get back to the table as quickly as possible.
Another tidbit I thought about on whether a 10 or Ace up is worse (in general, not just against a 16) for counters: The EV when the dealer is showing a 10 goes down as the count goes up (since it becomes even more likely the dealer has a 20) while the EV goes up with the count when an Ace is showing assuming the dealer checks for BJ (since the probability of a dealer bust which is normally low with an Ace upcard goes up). This is also why surrender is more valuable when counting than with straight-up BS (since it gives a way to back out of a likely strong dealer hand) while the difference in edge between S17 and H17 is less for counters. Also explained from what I said is the reasoning behind some of the "retrograde" indices like splitting 88 vs. 10 and surrendering 17 vs. A.