The Value of Wonging Out

[b]

I went on a practice run a few days ago and tried wonging out at -1 for the first time.
I was amazed at what happened after I stopped betting and just watched.
At high negative counts the dealer almost repeatedly was pulling a 5 or 6 to fill his 21 to the angst of the entire table except me who was just "observing". Many people were actually increasing their bets or putting big bets out into a big negative count and I could only kind of cuckle as the dealer pulled a 21 and wiped out the table.
I can only estimate that I saved hundreds by stepping away and am now sold on the idea. I did more walking then usual but alot less losing.
On a side note, another funny thing that happened. I was backcounting at a table with two guys at it that were getting slaughtered in a negative count. Then the count goes positive and they win a few hands and I try to put down a bet. They both jumped down my throat for trying to mess up the cards during their "winning streak". So I politely just pulled back my bet and watched them lose that hand and the next 5 in a row. I could only say "ha" under my breathe.
Oh the joy of this game!

 

[bluewhale]

I went on a practice run a few days ago and tried wonging out at -1 for the first time.
I was amazed at what happened after I stopped betting and just watched.
At high negative counts the dealer almost repeatedly was pulling a 5 or 6 to fill his 21 to the angst of the entire table except me who was just "observing". Many people were actually increasing their bets or putting big bets out into a big negative count and I could only kind of cuckle as the dealer pulled a 21 and wiped out the table.
I can only estimate that I saved hundreds by stepping away and am now sold on the idea. I did more walking then usual but alot less losing.
On a side note, another funny thing that happened. I was backcounting at a table with two guys at it that were getting slaughtered in a negative count. Then the count goes positive and they win a few hands and I try to put down a bet. They both jumped down my throat for trying to mess up the cards during their "winning streak". So I politely just pulled back my bet and watched them lose that hand and the next 5 in a row. I could only say "ha" under my breathe.
Oh the joy of this game!

next time don't pull your bet back.

 

[eps6724]

I went on a practice run a few days ago and tried wonging out at -1 for the first time.
I was amazed at what happened after I stopped betting and just watched.
At high negative counts the dealer almost repeatedly was pulling a 5 or 6 to fill his 21 to the angst of the entire table except me who was just "observing".
I can only estimate that I saved hundreds by stepping away and am now sold on the idea. I did more walking then usual but alot less losing.
Oh the joy of this game!

That's just about my exact experiences a couple of months ago. Will be doing it again next week, just wish I could figure out how to backcount a 6-deck shoe without LOOKING like I'm waiting for the count! (Dealer says, when I finally say 'guess I'll try it' that she figured I was a counter. Nice for an 'ego boost', but rather disconcerning for the idea of 'cover' at the same time! Still, made my bets, took their money and went back to 'circling'!)

 

[3aces]

I wonder if others have gotten heat while just backcounting and wonging in/out on 6D gmaes and betting like a 50-200 or 100-400 spread. I read some comments that u can bet 1-4 "all day" while backcounting, but it does seem like obvious counter behavior after a while. Anybody with backoffs doing this?

 

[Sonny]

I did more walking then usual but alot less losing.

That is the power of Wonging. Instead of putting your money at risk and watching all those minimum bets go down the drain, you are walking around looking for the next opportunity to make money…and maybe chuckling at the ploppies as you walk.

I read some comments that u can bet 1-4 "all day" while backcounting, but it does seem like obvious counter behavior after a while.

Backcounting is not that hard to pull off if you have a decent act. Here’s a few tips:

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=2789

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showthread.php?t=445

http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=42933&postcount=24

-Sonny-

 

[ajays327]

That is the power of Wonging. Instead of putting your money at risk and watching all those minimum bets go down the drain, you are walking around looking for the next opportunity to make money…and maybe chuckling at the ploppies as you walk.

I am confused a bit, when wonging in, you have to be back counting from the start of the shoe, right? Otherwise how would you know the actual count?

 

[Mimosine]

I am confused a bit, when wonging in, you have to be back counting from the start of the shoe, right? Otherwise how would you know the actual count?

for the most part you should only backcount from the START of the shoe. so when you're walking around a casino, you should be keeping track of dealers who are currently shuffling and dealers who are about to shuffle. that way if you start counting one shoe and it tanks (i.e. TC -1.5) then you hurry off to another table where they are just about to shuffle.

that being said, you can most certainly backcount a shoe where you have missed some cards, even up to 1 deck. let me explain: say you have an 8D game before you, where they cut off 1.5 decks, you walk up to the table and see all low cards out, but you see 1 deck in the discard tray - you can for all intents and purposes start your count immediately and all the cards that you missed you can consider to be behind the cut card.

i use KO, so the deck estimation is not an issue and have had some success with backcounting 6D games where i have missed a couple of rounds. In doing so I am more modest with my bet spreads upon wonging in, since i don't have a complete picture....