Travel Channel

[Mikeaber]

I caught a "Vegas" show on the Travel Channel last night. It was an hour long show on the top ten ways to Win in Las Vegas. I don't recall all of the points:
Coupon hunting was like #7
#8 was finding the best games (Blackjack and Craps were highlighted)
#4 I think was "think yourself a winner!)
But the one that caught my attention was a piece done by Anthony Curtis that came in at #2. "Learn To Count Cards!" It included a demonstration of a heads up game SD at Silverton I think where AC played for 30 minutes and came out $80 ahead. He explained his reason for increasing and decreasing bets and what his expecatations were of the results of each hand.

Just wondered if anyone else saw this and if so, what were your thoughts on this?

 

[E-town-guy]

What was the #1 way?

 

[ScottH]

What was the #1 way?

Probably cheat! :devil:

 

[zengrifter]

What was the #1 way?

--Comps. zg

 

[bigbjfan]

I saw this when it 1st aired several months ago but didn't record it. Glad it was replayed and I thought it was a great show. Hopefully, I can record next time.

 

[zengrifter]

--Comps. zg

Coincidentally, I got an email from Max Rubin today after I sent out an email change of address to everyone in my address book. He came back wanting to know who I was:

[email protected] wrote:
> I'm still not sure who you are and why I would care if you changed your email address or not. How about a name at the end of the message?<

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My email book was too big to cherry pick, you cantankerous old casino scammer! zg

 

[Mikeaber]

--Comps. zg

Actually, "comps" was on up the list at 6 or 7 I think. Or I may be getting that one confused with Jean Scotts coupon hustling. The number 1 way, according to the show, was "knowing when to quit". You have to "understand their audience." I guess that was why I was so surprised to see Silverton and Anthony Curtis promoting "Counting Cards."

 

[Mackhack]

Was that show Do's and Don'ts in Vegas?

 

[Mikeaber]

Was that show Do's and Don'ts in Vegas?

No Mack, that was another show. You could tell that it was heavily spun toward the tourist trade by the #1 "Way To Win". They made it sound so simple in theory that any numbskull could be a "non loser" simply by attitude and budget. That's not a "way to win"....it's tourist survival.

The one that really blew me away though was up there pretty high...around 8 or 9 I think. Said to pick the right games...VP, Blackjack, Craps...but didn't emphasize that you had to know how to PLAY those games in order to win! Later on, they had another point about taking lessons...the example was craps. Just "knowing" which game to play will definitely not help you win in Vegas!

 

[stovepipe_1_2_3]

black jack and craps offers you the best odds on your money. stay away from 'carnival games" black jack where you can double on any first two cards gives the house an advantage of 2 % (most multi decks) with a double on ten or eleven the house has an advantage of 5% (most singal decks)


with double times odds on craps the house advantage can be knocked down to 1.98% and some houses have a 10 times odds on craps.

just remeber the house will play this game for years and years to come so they expect the win in the long run your goal is to get in and get out with some money... and never think the "roll" will last forever.

 

[ScottH]

black jack and craps offers you the best odds on your money. stay away from 'carnival games" black jack where you can double on any first two cards gives the house an advantage of 2 % (most multi decks) with a double on ten or eleven the house has an advantage of 5% (most singal decks)

Where did you get these numbers? They are far from accurate. The house edge is MUCH LOWER than you have stated. The house edge is around a half a percent (or less) for both of those games.

 

[TENNBEAR]

Cheats and Scams

This show aired Cheats and Scams 2 on the Travel Channel tonight, it also explains card counting and interviews Arnold Snyder among several others. Did any of you see this. This will be airing again later tonight.

 

[zengrifter]

Where did you get these numbers? They are far from accurate. The house edge is MUCH LOWER than you have stated. The house edge is around a half a percent (or less) for both of those games.

He's a dealer, he's quoting industry average-player 'theoreticals'. zg

 

[Sonny]

stay away from 'carnival games" black jack where you can double on any first two cards gives the house an advantage of 2 % (most multi decks) with a double on ten or eleven the house has an advantage of 5% (most singal decks)

Say what?! Almost every game I’ve ever played allows doubling on any first two cards (sometimes even four!) and the house edge is always less than 1%, and usually less than 0.5%. I have no idea where you get a 5% advantage for single-deck either. I think you’ve been looking at the "hold" and not the actual edge. Then again, if I followed all the advice I got from casino dealers then the house edge would certainly be closer to 5%! :laugh:

with double times odds on craps the house advantage can be knocked down to 1.98% and some houses have a 10 times odds on craps.

Not quite. The house edge for 2x odds is about 0.6% and 10x odds would drop it down to 0.184%.

-Sonny-