What do I have to do? I have a very busy lifestyle of sorts; Can I handle it? Lol How much time will this take, guys? I guess I can do it watching Fox News. Don't tell zg--he gets real upset when he catches me watching the mainline news media conspiracy that is slowly washing my brain. Wonder what he's got against clean gray matter? Lol Baaaaa!
try and be an idiot
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lol that's the spirit. :1st: :band:
you can handle it. might mean a few less posts in the ZenZone but that'll keep. you can throw us some tid bits of profound wisdom from time to time here in the Voodoo forum. it's gonna be a finite experience so take heart.
and see Kasi's post http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=81636&postcount=197
to where the idea is gonna be to set this up for those with busy lifestyles.
so what do you gotta do? good question. nobody knows yet. we're still getting this all set up. and guess what? you get to help. lol.
you can handle it. might mean a few less posts in the ZenZone but that'll keep. you can throw us some tid bits of profound wisdom from time to time here in the Voodoo forum. it's gonna be a finite experience so take heart.
and see Kasi's post http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bb/showpost.php?p=81636&postcount=197
to where the idea is gonna be to set this up for those with busy lifestyles.
so what do you gotta do? good question. nobody knows yet. we're still getting this all set up. and guess what? you get to help. lol.
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no you wont have to do TC conversions from KO.
once the sim is posted it will show how to bet according to a Hi/Lo determined range of true counts. we will then know TC frequencies, the advantage for a given TC, standard deviation for a given TC and the proper bet size for a given TC.
your task as a KO officionado would be to develope a game plan for KO play against this game according to that simulation information. alternatively i suppose you could run some simulation specifically for KO against the same game constraints. so while you play you wont have to do TC conversions from KO. but i guess you might have to set your game plan up according to how KO RC's correlate to Hi/Lo true counts in general.
once the sim is posted it will show how to bet according to a Hi/Lo determined range of true counts. we will then know TC frequencies, the advantage for a given TC, standard deviation for a given TC and the proper bet size for a given TC.
your task as a KO officionado would be to develope a game plan for KO play against this game according to that simulation information. alternatively i suppose you could run some simulation specifically for KO against the same game constraints. so while you play you wont have to do TC conversions from KO. but i guess you might have to set your game plan up according to how KO RC's correlate to Hi/Lo true counts in general.
my wife thinks so. 
so but what i thought you meant was would you have to do tc conversions as you played in conjuction with your KO count. and i don't think you would need to do that. however before hand, that is before commencing play it would seem a good idea (if your are not going to run a KO sim and will be drawing your bet scheme from the Hi/Lo sim) to figure out how your KO RC is correlated to Hi/Lo true counts in general. then from that determine how you plan to bet according to your KO counts.
i know clear as mudd. perhaps there is a better way of looking at the question as i'm only marginally versed in KO.
so but what i thought you meant was would you have to do tc conversions as you played in conjuction with your KO count. and i don't think you would need to do that. however before hand, that is before commencing play it would seem a good idea (if your are not going to run a KO sim and will be drawing your bet scheme from the Hi/Lo sim) to figure out how your KO RC is correlated to Hi/Lo true counts in general. then from that determine how you plan to bet according to your KO counts.
i know clear as mudd. perhaps there is a better way of looking at the question as i'm only marginally versed in KO.
sagefr0g said:
my wife thinks so.
so but what i thought you meant was would you have to do tc conversions as you played in conjuction with your KO count. and i don't think you would need to do that. however before hand, that is before commencing play it would seem a good idea (if your are not going to run a KO sim and will be drawing your bet scheme from the Hi/Lo sim) to figure out how your KO RC is correlated to Hi/Lo true counts in general. then from that determine how you plan to bet according to your KO counts.
i know clear as mudd. perhaps there is a better way of looking at the question as i'm only marginally versed in KO.
so but what i thought you meant was would you have to do tc conversions as you played in conjuction with your KO count. and i don't think you would need to do that. however before hand, that is before commencing play it would seem a good idea (if your are not going to run a KO sim and will be drawing your bet scheme from the Hi/Lo sim) to figure out how your KO RC is correlated to Hi/Lo true counts in general. then from that determine how you plan to bet according to your KO counts.
i know clear as mudd. perhaps there is a better way of looking at the question as i'm only marginally versed in KO.
I'd like to include KO guys. Red 7. Whatever. It doesn't sound like using KO yields that much different cr*p compared to Hi-Lo anyway. Just no indexes. It is what it is.
Here's what I came up with Powersim.
A 3/4 play-all heads up game with standard S17 DOA DAS, re-split to 4 hands, No surrender, no indexes, standard stuff with Aces. 1-10 spread with a $100K roll. Using Hi-Lo count. Always just play BS.
Bet $50 at TC0 or below.
Bet $175 at TC +1.
Bet $350 at TC +2.
Bet $500 at TC+3 and above.
Basically that's it. Or whatever anyone deems is the equivalent for their count. Why not Level 2 counts? - the team welcomes the extra betting correlation lol. Won't help with indexes though.
Just counting and trying to bet one of those amounts at the right count. Only 4 bet amounts. Never any other bet amount lol. No spreading. Never take insurance. No camo. Jump your bets to the count. A chance for anyone to test their counting skills while betting and see how they do. Maybe learn how to measure their results, experience what a stan dev or 2 feels like lol. A chance for all those beginners with counting skill complaining of lack of roll to bet systematically to a $100K roll and measure up.
Anybody know if Powersim floors TC? Like a TC of +1.9 is still a TC+1 bet. Full deck estimation I assume. Use half decks if you want.
Can anybody run this spread thru CV whatever? I'm getting a .7858% EV. Win rate $105 per hundred hands. SD $2300 per hundred hands. Avg bet $134/hd. 95000 hands to double bank. 475 hours to N0. ROR 1.85%
Basically a crappy game but what the heck.
Minimum reporting requirements best guess of number of dealer upcards played against (hands played) and absolute dollars won/lost. Make hashmarks on a piece of paper as you play if you want to be more accurate. Count hands of a few shoes and average if you want and keep track of number of shoes played. The more accurate the number of hands you play, the more accurate your EV and SD will be. Count splits as 2 hands if you want. I don't care.
I don't want # of hours played.
Anything else you want to add, count used, when you bet one of those amounts according to your count, great. If you use software and it gives good detail like number of hands played at each bet amount etc, great. Total wagered. If it doesn't, then I guess you're more like a real counter in a casino making his best guesses.
I'll try to do results individually and of course all results combined like I imagine a team might.
Maybe I can figure out how to put out an Excel sheet with the results anyone could download and use for their own individual results and see how how anyone who has posted has fared. Do a recap here periodically. I don't know. Jump in and learn to swim basically lol.
You think I know what I'm doing? :grin:
So the idea is u/anyone just post here whenever you want. Good results and bad results as long as you were trying to be a good little robot with your counting system. Go ahead and steam and bet $1000 hand if you want - just don't include that shoe here lol.
Something like
"Aslan, 200 hands, lost $35000".
Then, as Trump would say, "You're fired" lmao.
I'm just hoping the team doesn't end up with the luck of 10 Wise Frogs
Comments? Suggestions? Questions? Dumb idea - just bag it? That's OK too lol.
And, to The Wise One, no I wasn't a good little robot lol. I couldn't win a big bet if my life depended on it, or so it seemed lol. Or maybe I was a perfect robot, just a really unlucky one - the Eternal Question lol.
I assume we're playing 6-deck. KO recommends the following betting progression, a modified Kelly scheme, based on 6-deck, DOA, DAS, 75% pen, 1 to 10 spread with a ramp of 6. This is what I use in AC:
$50 at -5 (which is less than TC of +1 with less than 3 decks remaining)
$100 at -4 (which is TC of +1.33 with 3 decks remaining)
$100 at -3
$150 at -2
$200 at -1
$250 at 0
$300 at +1
$400 at +2
$450 at +3
$500 at +4 and above (+4 equals a TC of +4 exactly)
Is this okay for the experiment?
$50 at -5 (which is less than TC of +1 with less than 3 decks remaining)
$100 at -4 (which is TC of +1.33 with 3 decks remaining)
$100 at -3
$150 at -2
$200 at -1
$250 at 0
$300 at +1
$400 at +2
$450 at +3
$500 at +4 and above (+4 equals a TC of +4 exactly)
Is this okay for the experiment?
jack said:
Canceller/Aslan
O' that...lol
I just purchased CVdata and CVBJ. It was just a test-run on Managing attachments. I cant seem to figure out how sage is doing it. Its gonna be a couple days before I even get to know my way around the Software
Bare w/me...lol
O' that...lol
I just purchased CVdata and CVBJ. It was just a test-run on Managing attachments. I cant seem to figure out how sage is doing it. Its gonna be a couple days before I even get to know my way around the Software
Bare w/me...lol
just make a copy image of your graph or what ever then use the manage attachments feature and upload it to your message. same thing like you did with the car raring to go......... uhmm you might gotta resize the image if it's greater than 97 kb....
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Don't know how Powersim calculates the TC. Is there no option to choose between rounding, flooring, truncating? . Ok, I used CVCX for 4.5/6
s17 das hilo, basic strategy, 1 Billion rounds, spread 1-10, with 3 other players, TC floored, full deck estimation and your betting scheme I get a ROR of 5.7%, SD $2166 per hundred hands, EV 0.532%, Win rate $67.33, Average Bet $126.49/hd N0 103,543 hands, SCORE 9.66.
. Ok, I used CVCX for 4.5/6s17 das hilo, basic strategy, 1 Billion rounds, spread 1-10, with 3 other players, TC floored, full deck estimation and your betting scheme I get a ROR of 5.7%, SD $2166 per hundred hands, EV 0.532%, Win rate $67.33, Average Bet $126.49/hd N0 103,543 hands, SCORE 9.66.