Video of a dealer dealing?

#1
I can keep up with the dealer in CVBJ fairly well, but I'm wondering how fast a dealer can deal in a casino.

I tried to find a video of some blackjack being played, but couldn't really find any. How fast does a hand go by if there's 3-4 players at a table? Do other players agonize over their plays, giving me a while longer to count? My method for counting on CVBJ and at the kitchen table is to wait until the player's get their second card dealt, count each hand 2 cards at a time, count the dealer's up card, then actually look at my cards, decide my play, count the cards dealt to each other hand and mine as it comes to it, then count the dealer's hole card and each hit he takes as they come. Is that the right method?

I'd like to see a clear video of your average dealer dealing cards to make sure I can count fast enough. Does anyone have a link to one?
 

ScottH

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#2
noodleZ said:
I can keep up with the dealer in CVBJ fairly well, but I'm wondering how fast a dealer can deal in a casino.

I tried to find a video of some blackjack being played, but couldn't really find any. How fast does a hand go by if there's 3-4 players at a table? Do other players agonize over their plays, giving me a while longer to count? My method for counting on CVBJ and at the kitchen table is to wait until the player's get their second card dealt, count each hand 2 cards at a time, count the dealer's up card, then actually look at my cards, decide my play, count the cards dealt to each other hand and mine as it comes to it, then count the dealer's hole card and each hit he takes as they come. Is that the right method?

I'd like to see a clear video of your average dealer dealing cards to make sure I can count fast enough. Does anyone have a link to one?
Just go to the casino and watch them yourself. Most are really easy to keep up with. There are some blazing fast dealers though. It will surprise you at first, but once you get good no dealer will be too fast. In fact, you will want them to be that fast.
 

NDN21

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#5
Your first counting trip to a real casino may be overwhelming when you first sit down at an actual table. I, as well as many others, lost the count real fast on our first counting trip. Do not despair. Do not freak out the first time you lose the count or can't remember your index plays. Get up and walk away from the table, gather your thoughts and try again.

In your first trip to the casino you likely won't perform like you will after a few trips.
 

Mimosine

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#6
NDN21 said:
Your first counting trip to a real casino may be overwhelming when you first sit down at an actual table. I, as well as many others, lost the count real fast on our first counting trip. Do not despair. Do not freak out the first time you lose the count or can't remember your index plays. Get up and walk away from the table, gather your thoughts and try again.

In your first trip to the casino you likely won't perform like you will after a few trips.
a perfectly accurate description of my first experience.

if you lose the count either a) get up, or b) play perfect BS - take a deep breath and get ready for the next shuffle.
 
#8
How fast do dealer deal cards.

How fast do dealer deal cards. This is my long term experence. Most dealers deal the first two cards to the players at 100 to 130 cards per min. At my experence level this is very slow and I have to drop my cadance down to get in rhytem (sp) with the dealer.

This was no so in my early days. When I was spotted as a card counter they would bring in a fast dealer. Maybe he delt out the first two cards to the palyers at 160 or so cards per min. I would most likely lose count. This was in the early days more than 20 yrs ago.

Today I practice at first two card delt to each player and dealer at 200 cpm, on my bj simulator. I do at least 50 to 100 rounds per day, to keep my skills up to date. I can go at least 10% above that if pushed, i.e. 220 cpm if necessary.

I have heard of some counters that can handle 270 cpm but I am not there yet.
 
#9
software dealer

CarlB said:
Today I practice at first two card delt to each player and dealer at 200 cpm, on my bj simulator. I do at least 50 to 100 rounds per day, to keep my skills up to date. I can go at least 10% above that if pushed, i.e. 220 cpm if necessary.
Which software are you using?
 

Kasi

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#12
Well, when I get fast dealers, especially the ones that "assume" the play you will make, which I find extremely irritating, I look em right in the eye and say "please wait for my hand signal".

That way, you control the speed not him.
 

ScottH

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#13
Kasi said:
Well, when I get fast dealers, especially the ones that "assume" the play you will make, which I find extremely irritating, I look em right in the eye and say "please wait for my hand signal".

That way, you control the speed not him.
The only way to really "control" the speed is to slow them down. As an AP, you are playing a +EV game so you would not want to slow the dealer down any, even challenge him/her to go faster!

Instead of slowing the dealer down to your comfort level, increase your comfort level to keep up with the fast dealers.
 

Kasi

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#14
ScottH said:
The only way to really "control" the speed is to slow them down. As an AP, you are playing a +EV game so you would not want to slow the dealer down any, even challenge him/her to go faster!
Instead of slowing the dealer down to your comfort level, increase your comfort level to keep up with the fast dealers.
It's not that so much as him just blowing by me when I want to diverge from BS and haven't given a hand signal.

And him thinking he knows what play I want to make. Sometimes he skips by even when I am making a hand signal.

In any case, it can be useful if one feels he's dealing too fast.
 

Kasi

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#15
noodleZ said:
My method for counting on CVBJ and at the kitchen table is to wait until the player's get their second card dealt, count each hand 2 cards at a time, count the dealer's up card, then actually look at my cards, decide my play, count the cards dealt to each other hand and mine as it comes to it, then count the dealer's hole card and each hit he takes as they come. Is that the right method?
Everyone has their own method but what I do is count the cards as they are being dealt rather than waiting until everyone has a 2-card hand. I tend to count them 2-at-a-time since alot of the time they will cancel. I don't see the point of wasting the time that the dealer is dealing like u do if u wait until all hands are dealt. After all, it's just as easy to count the 2 cards in someone's hands as it is to count 2 cards in a row while they are being dealt. At least for me anyway.

Using your method, don't sit at first base :)

Of course if u feel u got a little lost doing that, u can always count the hands again after they have been dealt.

Most of the time, things go so slowly my biggest problem is remembering the RC from the round before!
 
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