I'm curious as to how some of you guys go about practicing deck estimation. I see some on here saying that game A was cutting 1.2 and game B was cutting 1.4 and game C was cutting 1.9. My naked eye is not that good. So what kind of rules of thumb do you use? And in addition to keeping whatever couting system you like has anybody ever just kept a running total of the number of cards dealt in order to determine the remaining number of cards?
Ways to practice deck estimation
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Strictly Online Players / Deck Estimation
Hey Guys, E-Spirit54 here, I need to ask about Online Players ( Strictly ! ) Like myself ! How is Deck Estimation done, since obviously your not playing in a casino and, obviously can,t see a discard tray also, how many decks should we assume are in a shoe with online play ? I assume 6-decks on average and, @ present I,m simply counting all the cards that are dealt during each round of play. This gives me some idea of how many decks remain in the shoe. What do ya ! think / is this a good strategy ????......E-Spirit54
Hey Guys, E-Spirit54 here, I need to ask about Online Players ( Strictly ! ) Like myself ! How is Deck Estimation done, since obviously your not playing in a casino and, obviously can,t see a discard tray also, how many decks should we assume are in a shoe with online play ? I assume 6-decks on average and, @ present I,m simply counting all the cards that are dealt during each round of play. This gives me some idea of how many decks remain in the shoe. What do ya ! think / is this a good strategy ????......E-Spirit54
If you have 6 spare decks, I believe I remember reading in one of my books. The author suggested that you basically number off all the cards 1 - 312.
Knowing that each deck is 52 cards.
Then make sure you keep them in numbered order and start practicing with different stacks.
Never did this myself though. Reminds me I need to work on my deck estimation.
Knowing that each deck is 52 cards.
Then make sure you keep them in numbered order and start practicing with different stacks.
Never did this myself though. Reminds me I need to work on my deck estimation.
Its mostly just done by eye. I work on homes so measuring short distances by eye, is an aquired skill. One thing that almost always enters mental refference, is "half of the discard tray height" the discard tray ~should~ be the height of the number of decks in play, so half od it is half of the number of decks in play, and half of that isnt hard to eye up from there, or a1/4 of it or whatever.
Two things to watch out for when estimating decks.
1. 6 deck games with 8 deck discard trays
2. The "poofage" factor the poofage factor occurs when cards are in play for a signifigant amount of time and get freyed up. After a while, particularly in 8 deck games it may only take 7 or 7.5 decks to completely fill an 8 deck discard tray, because the cards "poof" up. This effect is most devistating to TC estimation at the end of the shoe, be sure to notate penetration prior to begining a shoe, so when it apears that there are 7 decks in the discard tray, you can remind yourself that there were 2 decks cut off, and that isnt possible. This will save you from becoming a victim of the poofage factor.
I made up the term poofage factor, but it really does happen.
~FERRET~
Two things to watch out for when estimating decks.
1. 6 deck games with 8 deck discard trays
2. The "poofage" factor the poofage factor occurs when cards are in play for a signifigant amount of time and get freyed up. After a while, particularly in 8 deck games it may only take 7 or 7.5 decks to completely fill an 8 deck discard tray, because the cards "poof" up. This effect is most devistating to TC estimation at the end of the shoe, be sure to notate penetration prior to begining a shoe, so when it apears that there are 7 decks in the discard tray, you can remind yourself that there were 2 decks cut off, and that isnt possible. This will save you from becoming a victim of the poofage factor.
I made up the term poofage factor, but it really does happen.
~FERRET~