wonging is socially awkward

[The Chaperone]

When I started out I was often back counting in card rooms (i.e. no machines) where there was only 1 BJ table open (usually one other table with 3cp or something). Try that for awkward.

 

[Severity8]

lol

Would only work once in a while but when they ask why you keep getting up from the table and leaving tell "horrible IBS man"! lol

 

[forwhat77]

Kewl,
Bojack brings up a good point. Shuffle tracking is a good weapon to have. Sometimes the oppurtunities bumb right into you. Especially in our neck of the woods!! Just have to be diligent about keeping an eye out for them.

As for wonging, OP just have to develop tough skin.. So what the dealers are eyeing you!! If they say something, just tell them you are waiting for that feeling!! Be imaginative. "Not the right time", "Let's see if I can change this flow up", somethings of the sort. Just wait until you start spreading from one hand to two, and back!! Your gonna love those comments...:laugh:And if you find yourself backcounting a negative shoe, just move on until you see one going positive. This will usually keep you moving a bit.

 

[RJT]

Two things with that Mr Bo. I tried some elementary shuffle tracking, if ya remember, and what I got from you, was a "you're doing yourself more harm than good", which was probably correct, so I gave it up. I don't remember any offer to help. :laugh:

He was probably right, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't continue trying to develop your skills off table to a level where you can improve your game. Also there are certain 'easier' opportunities like the one you describe above where the count nose dives right at the start of the shoe that don't require as much skill to take advantage of. They're not strong enough replace counting by themselves as they don't occur often enough, but they do augment your advantage.

Another concern with I have with learning something like that is it requires longer sessions at each table which I am trying to avoid for longevity sake. Sure ST is a little harder for the casino's to pick up on because you aren't raising with the count, but, if you are constantly winning, by whatever method, you will wear out your welcome before long. I want to play in this town for at least a few more years.

In my mind longevity would be increased substantially by tracking. The very act of placing large bets that don't corrolate with the count is going to throw the hound off the sent rather than shorten your lifespan and the variances is still high enough that you'll have many losing sessions. Yes if the casino has some fixed win ceiling (if you're playing rated) you're going to reach that faster unless you're very good at masking your wins, but would you rather win the hypothetical amount in fewers sessions or invest more time winning the same amount?

RJT.

 

[Coyote]

I always get the feeling that the dealers are eyeballing everyone who walks around the tables out of boredom. Like they are looking for some more interresting than the ploppies at their table. Plus, they make more money if people are playing and tipping right? I'm going to try real hard not to get parinoid as develope my skills.