heres the game i've been playing does anyone know of it?

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its a picture of it at the casino i got to this is the blackjack they have

http://www.fraserdowns.com/images/casino_pics/_DSC8372.jpg (Archive copy)

im wondering if martingale betting strategys will work on it its a 5 dollar minimum and 500 maximum pays 3to2 double downs on 9 10 and 11 splits on all pairs so far i will jsut wait till im up 1 unit then hop to the next table theres 4 of these video blackjack tables in the casino most i make is like 35 buxs then leave but im wondering is there another way i can beat it kuz these guys always come at 3 am when the tables are dead and they usually leave with at least 100 bux a nite and sometimes 500 but they bet larg i bet minimum and they are ascaming it somehow one on one againsts the dealer anyways any help is greatly apreciated guys thanks. godbless you all :)
 
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Sonny

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Judging by those rules the house has a pretty big edge. In that case the Martingale, or any other progression system, will not work. Even if you have an advantage the Martingale will often still fail because of the huge bankroll it requirements. It is just another worthless betting progression system. Forget about it.

The game may be beatable, but it would depend on a lot of things that you didn’t mention. How many decks do they use? What’s the penetration? Is there mid-shoe entry? What software does it use? Is it safe? Are there any glitches or bugs? Are there any flashes or tells? The list goes on…

For the time being I would just ignore the machine. Even if it is beatable, we wouldn’t discuss it on a public forum.

-Sonny-
 

sagefr0g

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Sonny said:
For the time being I would just ignore the machine. Even if it is beatable, we wouldn’t discuss it on a public forum.

-Sonny-
thats an interesting statement :confused:
why so? ......... so as not to have the dark side flip a few switchs?
 

Preston

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I ran into these things at Dover Downs in Delaware. I didn't play, but I looked it over as best I could. It said 6 decks were used. But other than that NOBODY could tell me if it was shuffled every hand or what the penetration would be.

I just ignore these machines. I think they're rigged.
 

shadroch

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Preston said:
I ran into these things at Dover Downs in Delaware. I didn't play, but I looked it over as best I could. It said 6 decks were used. But other than that NOBODY could tell me if it was shuffled every hand or what the penetration would be.

I just ignore these machines. I think they're rigged.
Based on what?
Casinos have no reason to rig anything,they are already ahead of the game thru the rules,why would one risk millions of dollars by rigging a game?
 
#9
hey

i think here is a decent penetration because the dealer changes after 20 minutes of play i think? somwhere around therer and theres 3 dealers a man and two ladies. when they ask for insurance everyone that plays the game like everyone says wait until the third time then buy insurance thats the bj patter for the dealer. and usually everyone say its team pllay in this one they say wut cards to not take and dealer will bust and sumtimes they get choked when you take the bustcard haha but yah next time i go i iwll scope out the machine more and see more details like model number company made by and all that. ttyl guys
 
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shadroch said:
Based on what?
Casinos have no reason to rig anything,they are already ahead of the game thru the rules,why would one risk millions of dollars by rigging a game?
these machines make alot of money off the people that only come with 10 bux play for a bit then lose it all but the guys that pump in like at leat 200 are doing good and i think there counting kuz theres this one guy that comes earlier and he will say what card is coming next to the other playsers he will be like its ok to hit this one its not 10 or higher or trust me dont hit you will bust and about 95% of the time he's rite .....
 

Preston

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shadroch said:
Based on what?
Casinos have no reason to rig anything,they are already ahead of the game thru the rules,why would one risk millions of dollars by rigging a game?
Well, if they did rig it there would be no way I can think of proving it.

HOWEVER, last year I played a smilar machine Three Card Poker. Down to my last bit of money and couldn't play the pairs plus bet. The next hand was AAA. It could've just been bad luck... but I would honestly rather have live cards I can track.
 

positiveEV

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Preston said:
Well, if they did rig it there would be no way I can think of proving it.

HOWEVER, last year I played a smilar machine Three Card Poker. Down to my last bit of money and couldn't play the pairs plus bet. The next hand was AAA. It could've just been bad luck... but I would honestly rather have live cards I can track.
It was bad luck, those machines generate thousands of numbers a second and when you hit the button they just take the last number they generated, if you would have pressed the button half a second sooner or later the result would have been totally different.
 

Preston

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shadroch said:
sorry,but thats just a losers lament.I can't win,so the game must be fixed.
btw-how do you track cards in three card poker?
wasn't referring to three card with the comment about tracking cards. The biggest problem with these machines is you never know when they are going to shuffle. I doubt it has anything doing with the dealer changing. If the machine sits unplayed the same video loop goes through and it changes on a timer.

I have played versions of video blackjack before. The Cherokee Casino in Cherokee, NC for example. I counted there and the cards generally came out the way they should.. and you know when they "shuffle"
 
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