Getting A Comp card

Ferretnparrot

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#1
I think this is an important topic because many times while playing low stakes your expected hourly winnings may not be enough to cover travel costs or parking especially if you hop casinos all day and pay multiple parking fees. In this case you may wish to have a comp card to gain extra value in free food and such for your play. When i play i typically get 60% of my hourly winnings as comp dollars in adition to my expected hourly winnings, i think this is awsome so i always have a card where i play, of course never in my real name, so how do you get a card in a fake name without showing id? Thats the question here. (Assuming of course you dont use fake ids cause thats totally illegal)

How do you get a card in a fake name without showing id?

These are my strategies i think we should all post our own.

1. Buy in with a large sum of money upon first sitting down(500-1000) when they ask for your players card say "Oh, I dont have one can i get the little peice of paper to fill out?" while making a guesture with your hands for the peice of paper maybe pointing toward it and making a writing motion with your hand signifiing that you wish to fill one out. This plan works because when they see your money and that you are a big player they want to try and cator to your ever whim to make you happy and its very easy for them to just hand you the paper. When they give you the paper fill it out with a bogus name and bogus address and bogus date of birth, thats all they ever need, they dont even need an address iv done it without and address before.
***IMPORTANT*** remember the date of birth you used as when you goto swipe it on a comp machine it will ask to verify it.

2. When they push you to get a card and you dont want to show ID, or if the above plan fails and they ask for your ID, i typically open my wallet to pull it out and they say oh wait its in my car because i got pulled over on the way here and left it in my glovebox, then go off about the police and how much they suck trying to change the subject.

-I have also considered claiming that my wife/gf is holding my wallet so that i can only lose so much money, and this is why i dont have my id, but im only 21 and peopel probibly wouldnt beleive im married, this may work for some of you though.

3. I not once but TWICE got a card by simply saying "My family hates when i give out our address is there any way i can get a card wiothout giving my address?" Many, many times this was met with a no, but two times i was handed a peice of paper and asked for my name and DOB.

4. When trying to claim comps that require ID, i noticed on credit card application that it had a spot to fill for a addition cardmember with access to your account, I filled out that spot with one of my alliases from the casino town i play in, and sure enough they mailed me a credit card with that name on it, iv never had to present id to claim a comp such as a hotel room, but if i had to i would most likely use some excuse that i didnt have my drivers license and that that credit card should be fine and then point out that i play large amounts of money and this is my fav casino iv been playing here for years etc etc trying to make them want to cator to me.

5. Biggest tip of all, be confident and lay down the law, the casino is there to cator to you, if things arnt going your way or your unsure that they will cooperate start putting your money back in your wallet, start glancing at other games and suggest you want to play them instead, mention another casino(gasp!) and something about an awsome game or even they had and how cool it was. Do this in full view of the floorperson so they think they ned to work to earn your buisness. Im not sayig you have to do all of this each time but i do at least one of these things everytime im confronted and i view them as tools to weasle me out and in of certain situations at key times.

Lastly i know that some people are against obtaining comp cards and i just wnat to say that this post should be used for methods of obtaining them only not why you think they shouldnt be obtained.
 
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21forme

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Any place I've tried to get a comp card, they've always required picture ID.

Ferret - I see you're in NJ. Have you gotten any comp cards in AC without picture ID?
 
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Ferretnparrot

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#3
i have 3, from the hilton, the tropicana, and some from the thrump casinos. Its worth mentioning that at some casinos they do require id, but most notibly only if you apear under a certain age, for instance the borgata will id almost everyperon that sits down at a table so trying to get one there would be useless if you apear under 30. I almost had one at ballys but they kicked me out for not showing my id since i am kinda young, i has made some noteworthy plays immediatly prior so that may have been the reason also, either way she was putting it in the computer and getting ready to print it when the security guards came to escort me to the cage. It is difficult and you will fail more than you succed but it is possible and totally worth it.
 
#4
Even as a card counter, I think it's worth having a card where you play. Those points are worth something - and something is better than nothing.

Personally, I'd give the casinos my full details and address. Why? Simply many of those casinos will also POST OUT additional coupons and rebates - and if you don't have an address on file, you'll miss out on the offers.

If they're going to bar you (as they did me in the UK) then it makes no difference whether you've got a players card or not. If they don't like your play they'll escort you to the cage and off the premises regardless. Having a player's card might even help you - they give the notion that you'll be a regular player. Casinos don't typically like to lose a regular player - because they figure they'll get all your money in the end (what fools!!!).

Be careful about how you obtain these cards, and the names you get them in. Getting a credit card issued to you in a name that's not your own for example, is FRAUD. Potentially, that could lead to jail time.

Note: I'm not judging here, just stating an alternative viewpoint... :)
 

21forme

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#5
Getting a credit card issued to you in a name that's not your own for example, is FRAUD. Potentially, that could lead to jail time.

This as NOT true, at least in the US. You can use any name you desire as long as it's not on a gov't ID and not to defraud (i.e., avoid payment.) Your credit card can be in any name you want, as long as you pay the bill.


Thanks for the info, Ferret. Nobody's going to ask for my ID to make sure I'm over 21, because I'm well over :)
 

Sonny

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#6
davidpom said:
If they're going to bar you (as they did me in the UK) then it makes no difference whether you've got a players card or not.
But using a players card makes it much easier for them to track you. If you play anonymously then they have no idea if you are a winner or a loser. If you use a players card then you will need to manufacture losses on that card somehow. If you are playing for high stakes then hiding chips isn’t going to work either.

If you’re playing for low/medium stakes then you should always have a players card for at least one or two casinos so that you can get free food/rooms during a trip, but for serious play it is usually better to play anonymously to avoid barrings. I don't know if you've ever been barred, but it's not fun. :grin:

davidpom said:
Getting a credit card issued to you in a name that's not your own for example, is FRAUD. Potentially, that could lead to jail time.
I believe it is only fraud if you don’t intend to pay it. If you use a credit card in another name and always pay the bills then I believe it is legal, although the laws may vary in different countries.

-Sonny-
 

Ferretnparrot

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#7
Lemme specifi that i got an additional card for the account under my real name that has a different name on it, if i use it the bills come to my house under my real name, and it has the same account number as the one on my real name the only difference is the name stanped on the plastic card it self. It may be weird, but its totaly not illegal.

Yeah i have had several of my comp cards thrown back at me after i loged several hours and a lot fo winnings on them, thats why you get new one on a regular basis, also even the ones that have me branded as card counter, i still use to get free parking, which saves me real cash evertime i enter a casino.
 

Ferretnparrot

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#9
Knox said:
I think the better tactic is to just grab a card somebody forgot in a slot machine or something?
this would work if you know the person is your age and gender, maybe if you saw them drop it and you dont want to claim the comp dollars since you need a pin, but for me im 21 and theres a hell of a lot of old farts that play the slots, and chances are id give it to them and theyed say "hey! you wernt born in 1934! lemme see your id"

you could have a floorperson manually print you comp coupons without the use of a pin, but i think no matter what age you are you still pose the risk of not knowing the ages of the actual cardholder and not fitting it

This is quite possibly the best idea though if your a very high stakes counter and you want a new alias EVERY time you sit in the casino, you could even bring a buddy to go round them up from around the casino for you.

Lastly this part doesnt have add the fun aspect of obtaining a card under the name "Chuck Norris" from some unknowing asian pit manager, the holy grail of all fake names of course would be "Hilo Counter"
 
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Dopple

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#10
How do you explain if you just dont want a card for various reasons?

We worry about identity theft?

I worry about junk mail?

Not getting a card over a couple days alone will draw heat won't it? How can you explain not wanting any comps?

How could you use a fake name if you wanted to if you come on a charter flight? They have your name at the desk and could get it if they wanted, I dont think you can book flights under a fake name legally.
 

Ferretnparrot

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#11
Mostly, i try and buy in with small amounts on my initial buy in and say "nahh i dont have a card" or "nahhhh no card sry" as nonchalantly as possible. that usually takes care of the first buy in.

Mostly i claim that i dont like giving my address, or that the last time i got one i didnt get enough money to make it worth while and ill throw out some bogus number of comp dollars ig to for some exaggerated amoutn of playing time.

I once met a regular blackjack player who insisted that he refuses a card on the gorund that he just doesnt want peopel to know hes playing blackjack, and he doesnt even count cards so thats is a toally valid excuse

, im pretty sure they check for valid id at airports so i think the only option WOULD be a fake id if you had to do it
 
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