standard toaster
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when you go to sit at a table how much of your br do you put into play? I feel like im doing myself a lot of harm by putting down 700 on a 5 min table instead of a bit more
how much do you sit with?
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SD Padres
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I sit down with 40 units but I don't buy in for that when I first sit down. I break it up into 4 buy ins if I'm losing. If I lose my 40 units, double my 40 units or have played for one hour... I am out of there. Those are my 3 rules for knowing when to quit.
la_dee_daa
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playing 10min tables with max bet 120-150 i buy in with like 300ish but rebuy alot... half the time when i have a big bet out i rebuy during the hand to double down or split. i dont like buying in with alot of money either. all you need is enough for your inital bet on the table!!!!! lol
no way you should ever buy in to a $5 min table with $700 upfront. i think it draws too much attention. buy in for maybe $100-200 as this is what most ploppies generally do. plus, the pit LOVES to see you dig into your pockets for more rebuys. if you keep them smiling, you will have a little easier of a time in my opinion. so, keep most of your money in your pocket, buy in with enough for a few rounds and to cover some splits/doubles, and leave the rest in your pocket and only take it out in small chunks as you need it.
on $25 min tables, i would buy in for something like $200-300 initially.
on $25 min tables, i would buy in for something like $200-300 initially.
Only thing about your reasoning it will slow down the game. It drives me crazy every other hand somebody is buying more chips !
golfnut101
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When Im not at the local stores, I will sheepishly fumble in my pockets for $75 or so; afraid of losing that much money to the casinos !
Just one of many you can have fun with-not that it should matter at that level. Good practice though for when you play for 'greener' stakes.
Just one of many you can have fun with-not that it should matter at that level. Good practice though for when you play for 'greener' stakes.
blackjack avenger
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Bother You?
Imagine how the other guy must feel!:joker:
I once, well maybe more then once was the guy buying chips on every stinking hand! The other player started to rudely complain. I apologized profusly for being down several thousand dollars and for not holding onto a win for the next hand for several hands in a row!!!!:whip:
Imagine how the other guy must feel!:joker:
I once, well maybe more then once was the guy buying chips on every stinking hand! The other player started to rudely complain. I apologized profusly for being down several thousand dollars and for not holding onto a win for the next hand for several hands in a row!!!!:whip:
moo321
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Comps. That's a good reason.
Not sure where you'll get any worthwhile comps playing $5 min table. maybe downtown vegas.
Rukus is right. No way should you buy in for more than $100/$200 on a $5 table. Comps are not based on your buyins-wins-losses. They are based on your thoereticals meaning what's your average bet over a 4 hour period. If your play is less than 4 hours /day at a casino then your comps are minimal. At a $5 table,even with a 1-20 spread then $200 is about your limit for attention. Move to a $25 table if your minimum is going to be $20-$25 all the time. My guess is that table max will be the same at both tables,probably $1000 and I would suggest staying at the $5 table and grinding. I have never personally witnessed any real heat at a $5 table...never.
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moo321
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I get rooms and food all the time in the Midwest, which is among the worst places to get comps. You can disagree for whatever reason you want, but the fact is that a good comp hustler can vastly increase the amount of comps they receive. And one part of a good hustle is to look like you're betting more than you are.
Harman
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EasyRhino
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Buy in for a lot to get the pit's attention, make a couple big bets for show, then bet small when he leaves. Comp hustling 101.
Anyway, I will often buy in for 20 units, I don't like to run out of chips every hand (especially in insurance opportunities). Depending on the place, some times I'll buy in for less if that would seem to attract too much attention.
It's trickier if you're play-all with a really big spread (like a shoe game). In that case, I haven't figured out a way where you can have a buyin that's reasonable for both your min bets and your max bets. So I usually buyin fairly small, and expect to have to go into the wallet if I start betting big.
Anyway, I will often buy in for 20 units, I don't like to run out of chips every hand (especially in insurance opportunities). Depending on the place, some times I'll buy in for less if that would seem to attract too much attention.
It's trickier if you're play-all with a really big spread (like a shoe game). In that case, I haven't figured out a way where you can have a buyin that's reasonable for both your min bets and your max bets. So I usually buyin fairly small, and expect to have to go into the wallet if I start betting big.
20 units at a $5 dollar table is only $100 at a $25 dollar table thats $500 hardly enough to get the "pit's attention, make a couple big bets for show, then bet small when he leaves". Small fish. Sounds smelly ! Maybe a chicken dinner.
Yea, but if you buy in several times for smaller amounts, can you count on the pit keeping track of it all? I've seen the pit guys nod OK on a buy in call and then get distracted by something and not go to the screen until much later.
I like to buy in for $300, rathole chips if I win, color up after maybe an hour, cash in, take a break then go to another pit and buy in again.
To buy in for smaller amounts is a good thing. Let me explain the rationale. At a $5-$10 table you have your ham&eggers,ploppies and tourists and they buy in for $20 to $100 maybe $200 max. I believe heat is over rated/talked about but you have to be smart. Buy in for small amounts and re-buy often if you need to-so what. In fact,after a winning session...you can negotiate your total buy in and get 1-2 extras added because the pit does not watch close enough. Now you are hiding your wins too. Plus with multiple buy ins you look like a loser and can still rat hole chips...another way to hide a winning session. Even at a $25 table a $300-$400 buy in is the norm. You are not trying to impress anyone or be the big fish are you? You are trying to fly under the radar. This beats using a camo bet that costs money. Even at high stakes, a $1000 buy in puts the pit at ease as oposed to a $5000 start. They don't think a guppie eats as much as a whale.
EasyRhino
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a) I didn't mean to imply that my main goal was comp hustling. If so, I'd buy in bigger.
b) My unit is bigger than $5.
However, I've noticed that as the bet size increases, most people's buyins tend to shrink, when evaluated per unit. At a $5, you'll still see a decent number of people buy in with $100, even if they're just flat betting nickels. (of course, their "emotional bankroll" may be less than $100, but that's still the buyin). However, at tables where people are playing with greens, the buyins are proportionally less. More people seem to be playing "short-stacked". Heck, you still get the occassional chucklehead buying in with $50 at a $25 table.
I don't spend enough time at black chip tables to know what it's like there.
moo321
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Yeah, if you buy in more, you may get noticed more. So, do you want to get noticed and get comps, or fly under the radar? No right answer. I just wanted everyone to be aware that there isn't a "right" answer when it comes to buy-ins.