Atlantic City casinos

[Rocketman517]

Hey guys and gals, If your looking for six deck tables in A.C. you need to go to the high stakes room at the Claridge casino. It is part of Bally's now.
There is no mid-shoe entry and you can split/double down for a total of up to 4 hands. I have been playing there for well over a decade. Very nice room, quiet, good service, your own private bathrooms, good drinks.
"I always play by myself at a table", and this is the perfect location very few people up there.(usually only two or three). There are only about 5 or 6 tables up there. The min. bet is $50 at one or two of the tables and $100 at the rest of them. I know that might sound like a big min. bet, but the advantages are obvious. Just you against the dealer, Only six decks, Split/double down up to 4 times, No distractions, and you get taken care of while your there.
LET ME MAKE THIS PERFECTLY CLEAR....."NEVER".. play at a table with other people. It will destroy your chances of hitting "your shoe". If you are playing at a 5, 10,15, or now 25 dollar table you will be surrounded by people who will make Bad / Stupid plays on the table. changing from one hand to two hands , staying when they should hit, hitting when they should stay, ect.
If your going to go to a casino to play, then go to play! Don't come to a casino with 400 or 500 dollars in your pocket. You will get wiped out....fast
Save up a little money and bring 1000 or 2000 and come to win...
BLACKJACK IS A SURVIVAL GAME.....a players only purpose is to survive through hours of cards waiting to hit that one shoe with "your name on it".
Then once you hit the run of cards , keep increasing your bets keeping a little of the casinos money each win . Keep increasing to the ceiling, no limit..take the run as far as you can. Then when you lose a hand go back to your "min. bet" Every time, no exceptions....take the runs as far as you can and the bets as high as you can. That way when the cards are running just ok, or bad , you are risking min. bets, when you hit a hot streak your increasing your bets till the very end of the streak( don't keep doubling your bet keep pulling some of the winnings off to your pile of chips), just keep increasing. Next determine when to stop playing. If you came with a 1000
you need to tell yourself in advance when are you a winner??? at a "total" of 1500, 2000?? Determine this in advance, so you can leave a winner. Then go eat and drink, and be a winner!!!
I read a few messages about casino comps, well if your worried about earning comps. Just to let you know, I haven't paid for a room , meal, or drink in over 10 years at Bally's (Claridge).(I go about 4 times a year) So if your gonna go to the casinos to play, then come to play!!! It's a whole different world when your a rated player in A.C.
Have fun and keep on playing.........

 

[SystemsTrader]

I'm not criticizing your methods Rocketman but I do disagree with some of the things you say.
First there is nothing wrong with playing with other players at your table. While it is true your expectacy will drop over time most other players do play proper basic and are curteous. Whether or not someone else makes improper plays at your table has no effect on your odds. Also the minimum table amounts are irrelevant. What is more important is the amount of units you are using. I would much rather sit down at a $5 table with $500 (100 units) than at a $100 with $2000 (20 units) like you suggested. Yes Blackjack is a game of survival but you won't last very long playing with only 20 units. The minimum unit amount is much more important than the minimum dollar amount.
You should not increase your bets just because you are winning. You should only increase your bets when you know you have an edge over the house. Plus you should never decrease your bets after a lose to the minimum if the edge is still in your favor.

 

[lagavulin62]

couldn't agree with you more systems. this is the second post for this person and I have to admit I am a bit suspicious of the motives of the poster. maybe it's just me?

mike

 

[SystemsTrader]

It sounds like he is spaming the board since the same post is in two spots!

 

[BAMA21]

Well, I don't want to be overly critical, snce nobody has given me a hard time here about my somewhat unorthatox playing style. However, I too have to disagree with a lot of what was said here. Playing with others at the table does not affect your odds; and that is true regardless of the system or method of play that you employ. Interestingly enough, most of the people I have encountered at real tables who hold the opinion that others can screww them up are players who themselves don't know proper basic strategy.

A good example of this happened to me this weekend. I sat down to play at a table that allowed late surrender; and on my second hand, I surrendered a 16 against the dealer's face card. The guy next to me went balistic about how I'd messed up his hand. The dealer did end up beating the soft eighteen that he didn't hit. In fact, the dealer wiped out everyone at the table; and I was the only one who didn't lose a ful wager. But this guy wanted to fuss at me for not losing a whole bet so he could win, when he wasn't even playing proper basic strategy himself, let alone realizing that my move was proper basic strategy.

Also, the betting system described in this thread is a positive progression; and speaking as a progression player, I don't think there is any way in the world that one could play a positive progression on a short bankroll (And $1000 to $2000 at a $50 table is definitely a short bankroll) for a long period of time and come out a survivor, let alone a winner. In fact, by saying that he is a rated player who never pays for anything in AC, the poster is pretty much admitting to a lot of losses. The casinos aren't stupid; and they don't compmlike that when you are regularly beating them at high stakes.

 

[Mikeaber]

Just a couple of comments:


#1: Already stated by others, but I'll endorse it....other player's mistakes will not in the long run change your own expectations as to win/loss. We need to make a rubber stamp that we can use to emphasize this!

#2: Playing at a table by yourself can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on your objectives and your style. If you are an Advantage Player, then first of all, you probably wouldn't be looking for a 6-deck shoe...you'd be looking for a good Single Deck game or a Double-Deck game! If you are playing as a recreational player, then playing with others at the table will just slow the game down and give you more time at the table per dollar gambled. It's a good thing. If you are playing for comps....playing with others extends your time at the table and therefore any accumulated comps.
On the other hand, if you are an advantage player, playing heads up is a good thing because you will get in more hands in a given amount of time. It has nothing to do with the fact that other players are making mistakes and messing up the deck. That's pure Voodoo!

 

[anglinw]

Lets keep Focused on Winning

I do agree with most of what every one here has said. I take what I can make work, and disregard the rest.

My whole life started over again, after a bad medical, legal, and financial mess, just over 4 years ago. Since then I am slightly ahead in all aspects, including my gaming results. As a result of Kevin Blackwoods book, "Play Blackjack Like The Pros," I now document my gaming activities just like I do for my meager 401K account, and it sure makes a difference, in both.

Although my initial tables stakes have, on occation, grown five fold when I colored up and left that table, my total bankroll for each trip in total, has tripled only once, and that was just recently. I double, or break my bankroll at about the same rate, slightly to the plus side; about five doubles to four semi, to total losses. This shift to the up side has occured as I learned and disiplined myself with the most basic counting system of Hi-Low, followed by adding an Ace side count (not the best system, but it works for me). I am not a "Professional" Blackjack player, but I do privately regard it as a part time job, and major hobby. Hope no one is offended by my actual figures, but I post it as the truth: Four years ago, I bankrolled $1000 per trip, two years ago, I was able to bankroll $2000, in the last several months, I have been able to bump up from $3000 to $5000 bankrolls, per trip. My personal income has not changed dramatically; my expanding bankroll is a direct result of more winning trips than loosing ones. My biggest fear, although it is starting to fade, is that this has been a total fluke! Time will tell, and I will continue to post accurate and truthful results.

In regards to "The High Limit Rooms" verses "The Floor," Yes, the high limit games have better rules for the player, fews decks, more split advantages, and yes, better comps, especially in Vegas, but AC as well. For most of us, myself included, the stats, ROR (rate of Ruin), betting units verses table minimums makes going Black, even for better odds, an intimidating proposition. We are all acutely aware of statistical disadvantages of being under funded for fabled "Black Action."

My usual plan of attack is to waltz into the "High Limit" room proudly and be willing to drop 25 betting units. Gentlemen, this is fun - and admittedly dangerous! I play with hysterical people with seemingly unlimited bankrolls and stories, have outragous conversations, and really enjoy the experience of, at least temporarily, being a "High Roller." The people are more attractive, and even the bottled water tastes better in the High Roller Pit. (My God, I'm starting to sound like Steve Wyn!) Back to reality, I buy in for 10 betting units; this turns no heads, and usually garners only an obligatory aknowledgement from the pit boss, and not a blink from the 'real' high rollers. I will buy in up to 3 more times for 5 units per. If that disapears, I leave a small tip and walk out peacefully. When this happens, I take my remaining 25 betting units, mulitply by four and take up residence at the red and green tables, where I statistically should have started at in the beginning. Should my total bankroll for the trip climb back to the 50 betting units for Black action, I go back and try it again.

With 50 betting units or less at a $100 table, I am fully aware that I am under funded by most standards, but have better rules. I have not documented enough trips to produce a reasonably accurate win/loss rate for the black action tables, but when the count goes high, and the eledged streaks come my way, I often double or triple the original buy in(s), as described above, sometimes even more. At least three times at a $100 table in the last six months, I have bought in for 10 betting units, and left with 50+ betting units. At least three times, I have bought in for 10, then 5, then 5 more, then the last 5 units, and left a losser for the table. When this happens I can still play comfortably at a lower table for the duration of my limited gaming time. This also gives me a much cheaper venue to practice and improve Basic Startegy, and various counting deviates, in real world action.

I once, recently, played a $200 table with 15 total betting units. My action lasted for about an hour and a half. Twice I went down to my very last $200 in chips for the table, and went back up. A the end, the count was great, and I pushed up 10 black chips, twice, winning both hands. The DD game then was shuffled and I realized that my initial buy in of $3000 was now $7500. Realizing how incredibly luck I had been not to break but actually win, I damn near had a Mallox moment on the spot, colored up and ran to the mens room. Even though I managed to win at that table, it was more than I could take. Although I still had time to play somemore on that trip, I called it a day, enjoyed a breakfast buffet, a monorail ride, and a walk with my wife, then cabed it to McCarran. Lesson learned for me was to only bet what I could stomach, no matter what size the bankroll.

I don't have the benifit, or perhaps the discouragement of pricey, but very accurate software to determine what tables, with which rules and what size bankrolls I need to statistically win a small percentage 19 of 20 times, with a standard deviation of whatever. I play BlackJack to win. I feel that what ever Varitus(sp) or any other software program or stat. chart may indicate, I have a small advantage, enough to win more often than I loose, at the best tables available. That said, I also genuinely enjoy the escape from the real world gaming provides, and I find it to be exceptionally fun, and entertaining. One of the greatest satisfactions I have ever felt, although it is not yet routine, is to pass a few funny colored chips toward the cashier at the cage, and get back that infomous, but yes obtainable banded packet of 50 One Hundred Dollar bills or more, all the Casinos money. Personally, I have received four $5000 banded bricks in my gaming career. Just those memories, a couple recent, keep me reading the books, studing the charts and using the free trainer on this site.

For the record, I can't believe that Claridge-Ballys, or any other legitimate casino has the time or inclination to post deceptive posts on various web sites anymore than I feel eledged "heat" with a $1000 buy in or 4 or 5 bager color up at a crowded high limit room, at same said legitimate casino's. When I have asked, yes indeed, 4 hours action per day, at a $100 table, at most bigger casinos does warrant the full RFB comp. Infreqent visits with mild winnings most of the time won't flag a player as a "counter," or place him on "the list." Just don't get greedy, and we should be alright. Then again, I may be wrong.

Good Luck all!