Best Strategy for 3-4 weekends a year in Vegas

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ibespoke

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Hello All. Apologies in advance for any “newbie” faux-pas I commit.

I am in Vegas 3-4 weeks a year.

What is the best strategy (betting system/counting system) for the weekend warrior a few times per year.

I can commit 5-10 hrs each trip.

Any guidance on where to practice (or apps etc), best Vegas casinos to play and suggested bankroll etc would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Henry
 
KewlJ

KewlJ

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"Rigged". :rolleyes: That's open for debate. But there are other reasons to stay away from the strip, not the least of which there are just better opportunities elsewhere, as well as crowded conditions and unsavory characters plying their trade. AND I believe I told you that about 2 years ago as you arrived in Vegas. :oops: You seem to be one of those stubborn guys that insists on learning things the hard way. I have had some of that in me at too at times.

So how are things going for you these days Zenking? Hopefully variance is being kind to you.
 
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ibespoke

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First off, you guys are awesome. Thx for the feedback.

I have 10k to play with (more if it makes sense) and approx 5-10 hours of time. Would like to average wins of $500 per trip over time. Am I dilusional or is this possible?

Skill level - Novice but I am skilled at counting etc.

Hoping to get feedback on betting systems based on true count and best casino to visit.

Thanks in advance for your feedback.
 
ZenKinG

ZenKinG

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KewlJ said:
"Rigged". :rolleyes: That's open for debate. But there are other reasons to stay away from the strip, not the least of which there are just better opportunities elsewhere, as well as crowded conditions and unsavory characters plying their trade. AND I believe I told you that about 2 years ago as you arrived in Vegas. :oops: You seem to be one of those stubborn guys that insists on learning things the hard way. I have had some of that in me at too at times.

So how are things going for you these days Zenking? Hopefully variance is being kind to you.
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How are things going for me? ahhaha. How about you go play on this fucking mob infested strip and let me know how you do. I'm not close to -10k on the strip since i arrived to town. All of my winnings have come off strip hahhaha. Let that sink in kids. Let that fucking sink in. Find me one card counter that has ever won long term counting the shoe games on the las vegas strip. Find me just one with a decent sample size. Go ahead ill wait.
 
KewlJ

KewlJ

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ZenKinG said:
How are things going for me? ahhaha. How about you go play on this fucking mob infested strip and let me know how you do. I'm not close to -10k on the strip since i arrived to town. All of my winnings have come off strip hahhaha. Let that sink in kids. Let that fucking sink in. Find me one card counter that has ever won long term counting the shoe games on the las vegas strip. Find me just one with a decent sample size. Go ahead ill wait.
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You know you are a goofball right? If you don't win on the strip...for mob infested reasons :rolleyes: or any other reason....then don't play on the strip. That is the beauty of Vegas. Not the greatest quality of games, but huge quantity. THAT is why those of us that are here.....ARE HERE. You get to choose where you are comfortable playing.

Besides the place on boulder highway that was my first ASM cheating casino (I had horrible results), I have had a few other casinos that I have really crappy results at. A couple lifetime losing results (small sample size though), a couple just too far below expectation for my liking. You know what I do? I STOP playing them. If I am uncomfortable with a casino for any reason, hey there is another one a few minutes away. That is Vegas. :)

The players that should be complaining are the players that come to Vegas and think Vegas is ONLY the strip and a little bit of downtown. And there are some AP's with that mentality too. They never discover the goldmine that is Las Vegas.
 
KewlJ

KewlJ

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Prior to moving to Vegas, I made....I don't know how many trips, maybe 7 or 8? And one of those was for about 5 or 6 weeks. I never played anything but downtown (where I was staying) and the strip.

Then I moved to Vegas. A guy from a big city who didn't drive and utilized public Transportation. Moving to a condo a block off the strip, I still only played the Strip, downtown and just off stip (places like Terribles at the time, Palms, Hooters, Wild, wild west). At first I only played places I could walk or ride my bike too. I even rode my bike from mid strip where I lived to places like Silverton and South point. M casino had a shuttle from Fashion show so I hit that.

And then eventually I started using the public bus system and found all the local places, all the stations, all the Boyds, all the independent local places and I was like....."now THIS is VEGAS". :)

The buses were too slow, and inconvenient, so I broke down and bought a car. And then a month later I won a truck AT one of those outlying local's places. :D

I still play downtown regularly, One notoriously sweaty place too regularly. Very short sessions and to be honest, I still don't know why I have been tolerated there as long as I have while others aren't. :oops: But the strip? Almost forgotten. I have 2-3 places that I stop buy once, occasionally twice a month or so. Besides the games aren't good, the strip is too crowded. Unless you are specifically looking to take advantage of that like on a busy fight night (play in the shadows). Too crowded. Too many touristy people. Too many scam artists and pick pockets.
 
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ZenKinG

ZenKinG

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Yea let me keep avoiding every single casino and have no where to play? What the fuck do you think i have been doing? All my profit has come off strip. Im a net loser around 10k on this fucking rigged strip with 300 hours on that strip mostly backcounting as well. Do you realize how unlucky you have to be to lose for 300 hours mostly backcounting? Hahahha. Youre also a complete idiot or fraud if you keep saying there are so many other casinos to play at. Theres maybe 32 casinos with playable shoe games in vegas. You act like theres 100. I dont play double deck.

I also like how you left out how you did on the strip. Unless you purposely fudge your answer i already know the answer. You lost on there just like everyone else and is why you started playing elsewhere. Theres not one counter who has won exclusively on the strip playing shoe games over a long sample size not one. If i cant win there no one can. I play as perfectly as a counter can theoretically play these games and i still cant win. Its alright cause bombs are gonna be dropping soon and all the rigged profit they stole from me is gonna cost them 1000x fold
 
Rebecca C

Rebecca C

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ZenKinG said:
Its alright cause bombs are gonna be dropping soon and all the rigged profit they stole from me is gonna cost them 1000x fold
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I'm curious, if you think the games aren't on the up and up, why would you keep playing there?
 
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Stevel96a1

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i remember i played at treasure island 2017, it was a double deck game 10$ min bet here on east coast sands pa is 50$ per hand wow so i thought i hit a gold mine, well i played for 15min and lost 60$ i asked to reshuffle she did, i asked again she had to ask pit boss and he said no.
i walked away from the table 3min later she shuffles the shoe i sit right the fuck back down and pit boss said dont deal to him gave me that dirty look like i just punched him or something so i left that casino -60$ and he knew what i was doing and knew i was not a native to vegas

but over all yea i can see how card counters can burn themselves from trying stuff they read in a book, beating blackjack getting into the long run with doubling 100 max bets or 10-100$ to 10k is a fear itself let alone by pass the pit bull bosses keep soldiering on Zenking and goodluck your gonna need it in vegas
 
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