bet spreads in 6dk game

ed_vantage

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Using green chips, what kind of bet spread can be gotten down without to much heat. Keep in mind I do intend to use betting and playing cover to throw the critters off. Ian Andersen says that he can get 1-18 down (1-2X9). Is this realistic?
ed
 
6D green spread...

... is easily 1-2x12u (1-24). If you are NOT wonging in at +counts, then wong out at TC-1or-2. If you do wong in at +count, 1-2x4u (1-8) is more than sufficient. I recommend you use a combination of both tacticts. zg
 
6D spread

I use a 1:2X6 on a $25 game and a 1:2X10 on a $10 game when I can find one. Never gotten any heat on account of it and there is one store where they know for a fact I'm a counter but they tolerate this kind of action. In shoe it can take a long time to get a good count, but that can also work to your advantage because it takes proportionally long to evaluate your play.
 
I've gotten away with

1-30 spread on double deck and 1-60 spread on 6 deck. Do what you think you can. I don't use any camoflage right now because I think you might as well not play at all if you are going to just hand over the money to the casino. If you play like a counter 99 % of the time then make one dumb move, I think the casino is going to think, "oh he made a dumb move but he's still a counter.". I don't waste time with it. Where I concentrate my time is getting in there, making the cash as quick as possible, and getting the hell out of there. That's me, though. That's my advice.
 
Depends on the place

Depends on the place. My weakest spread is 1-12 on 6D and I've occassionally gotten glances for that. On the other hand, one casino that I frequent regularly tolerates 1-2X20. With a spread like that, even crummy games start scoring a lot better.

Best,

ZOD
 
Cover & camo

I don't know, I still lay a lot of cover even at my level. Mostly 9/6 VP, which with the comps is still a positive EV game. One of these days when the roulette wheels are down to $5 I'm going to spend an hour or so playing a progression on the outside. See I have a very limited number of places I can play, so wearing out my welcome even in one is disasterous to my long-term career as a counter.
 
Also

depends on your bankroll. Your spread should also represent the edge x BR x 1 for full kelly, edge x BR x 1/2 for half kelly, etc, which effects your RoR. Same with tracking A's or 7's: edge x accuarcy x BR x 1/2 for half kelly, but normally this is a static bet. It can also varry if your accuracy level fluctuates with different shuffles, etc, but with the edge you have this may not make a diff for you.

tangent, I know
 
my bankroll

I haven't started out yet but when I do I intend on a bankroll of 200 max bets (which for me is going to be around $200). I figure this will be enough.
ed
 
yeah, more than enough

40,000 dollars (200 x 200) will be more than enough. My bankroll is 25,000 and I spread 25 - 300.
 
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