bjack-hall of fame results soon.

hammer

Well-Known Member
#1
On January 3, 2003, at a double-secret location in Las Vegas, some 60 of the world's top professional blackjack players will gather at Max Rubin's annual Blackjack Ball and elect the seven initial inductees into the Blackjack Hall of Fame.

Along with the invited guests at the Ball and a small number of blackjack dignitaries unable to attend the event, the public will be allowed to vote exclusively via this online Las Vegas Advisor ballot.

Please review all 21 initial nominees carefully (along with the discussion forums) and cast your seven (and only seven) votes.

We will keep a running tally of the seven vote leaders throughout the voting period and then post the seven winners on January 4th, 2003.

The final tally of all the public's votes will count as a single ballot at the Ball.

After the first seven winners are inducted, membership into the Blackjack Hall of Fame will be limited to two new members annually until the total reaches 21. Thereafter, only one new member will be chosen each year.

Barona Valley Ranch Resort and Casino in San Diego sponsors the Blackjack Ball and the Blackjack Hall of Fame. Members of the Blackjack Hall of Fame receive an RFB pass at Barona-for life-to not play blackjack there.

To place your votes, select up to seven of the checkboxes and click the 'Place Your Votes' graphic at the bottom of the page.

Ian Andersen One of the most successful solo players of all time. Wrote "Burning the tables in Las Vegas" and "Turning the tables on Las Vegas." Techniques apply mostly to high stakes solo players. Famous, but some claim that he's a mythological character. 116 4.34%
Andy Anderson He did all the work and made Griffin Detective Agency what it is today. Now runs Biometrica. Busted more counters than anyone in the world. Detractors claim he's a self-serving weasel who put innocent schmoes in the book to make himself look good. The pros hate his guts. Supporters tried stuffing the ballot on Dec. 28. 14 0.52%
Benny Binion Legendary owner of Horseshoe casino. Took unlimited bets on single deck blackjack. Took unlimited liberties with professionals in the back room. 78 2.92%
Julian Braun Wrote the ground breaking "How to Play Winning Blackjack." Wasn't a player during his writing days. Still isn't. He's dead. 92 3.44%
Alan Brown World Class player who took a casino beating, took 'em to court, won big and changed the way advantage players were treated by casinos forever. Overly aggressive at times, "Bulldozer" never perfected the art of camouflage play and drew a lot of heat. 14 0.52%
Johnny Chang MIT's most legendary player. 20 year All Pro career. Thinks "Tipping" is a town in China. Perhaps the most unconvincing cross-dresser ever. 29 1.08%
Richard Dougherty The Hyland Team's premier player. Perhaps the most fearless advantage player ever. A consistent six figure winner for decades, he's been barred 100's of times. Likes to torture dumb animals (pit bosses, Griffin Nazis and surveillance twits). 33 1.23%
Al Francesco The "Godfather" of team blackjack, he invented team play (and turned out Ken Uston) and other advantage plays. Still active. Arguably the greatest player who ever lived. He's pushing seventy. He's still sharp, but he better get voted in before he goes to the big game in the sky. 217 8.12%
Peter Griffin Wrote "The Theory of Blackjack." The only mathematical mind in the game on Thorp's level. He only played high stakes with other people's bankrolls. 265 9.91%
Four Horsemen Baldwin, Canty, McDermott and Maisel. The military men who used nothing but pocket calculators to devise the first basic strategy and bring strategy variations to light. Their theories had zero practical applications the real world of blackjack. 39 1.46%
Lance Humble Invented the "Hi-Opt" counts used extensively in the ' 70s and ' 80s. His pen name is "Humble," but he isn't. Named his book "The World's Greatest Blackjack Book." It isn't even close. 25 0.94%
Tommy Hyland Most successful team owner/manager in history, an all-pro solo player and the classiest guy in the craft. His appearances on national television have exposed him to 100's of casino execs. 187 7.00%
Mike Michalek Part of Hyland's brain trust, he's generally credited with inventing shuffle tracking. A consistent winner for 20 years running. Unknown to all but the very elite in the game. Went to high school in Detroit with Anthony Curtis. 45 1.68%
Bradley Peterson Two-time winner of the Blackjack Ball, solo and team player, travels the world, lives a James Bond lifestyle, but gets more girls. Plays for all the right reasons. World Championship Title's are all he's done to set himself apart from the rest of the world's top active pros. 40 1.50%
Lawrence Revere Wrote "Playing Blackjack as a Business" and played extensively in the ' 70s. A renowned cheat who robbed the casinos, his partners and his students. 62 2.32%
Max Rubin Author of "Comp City." Founder and host of Blackjack Ball and Hall of Fame. Knows the player and casino sides of blackjack better than anyone in the game. Unclear on the concept. Thinks losing $1 to get a $10 comp is winning. Consults for a casino. 68 2.54%
Arnold Snyder Author/Publisher of Blackjack Forum Magazine, the premier BJ trade publication for over 20 years Notorious nickel player known to go postal. 265 9.91%
Keith Taft Invented computer play. His devices liberated millions from Vegas and A.C. casinos. Perhaps the most innovative blackjack player of all time. Rarely comes out of hiding these days. 27 1.01%
Dr. Edward Thorp Wrote "Beat the Dealer." Played extensively. Changed the world of blackjack forever. None. He's a lock to make the Hall. 386 14.44%
Ken Uston Wrote "Million Dollar Blackjack." The most famous blackjack player in history. Responsible for legions of newcomers taking up professional play. Traded team secrets for fame and hurt a lot of pioneer's careers. 288 10.77%
Stanford Wong Most prolific writer of professional blackjack books ever. Newsletter and Web Site are the pro's most used reference guides. World's foremost expert on tournament play. Often spotted in Leon Redbone fashion wear, he reportedly gives up good games to the undeserving masses. 383 14.33%
 
#2
Top Seven Nominees

Top Seven Nominees

DR. EDWARD THORP 15%
STANFORD WONG 15%
KEN USTON 11%
PETER GRIFFIN 10%
ARNOLD SNYDER 10%
AL FRANCESCO 9%
TOMMY HYLAND 7%
 
#5
Re: 21

It was surprising to see gy like Griffin, Binion,etc. listed.Since when did they do anything positive for Advantage Play. I think Schlesinger, Fuchs & Vancura should have been added. Hell with the logic displayed in the picks they should have John Patrick in there for being the worlds best BJ con artist. Just my humble, "with a buck you can get a cup of coffe and maybe a danish", oppinion. LTC
 
#7
No Snub

There is a good reason. Perhaps those in the know are more enlighted than a guy who makes up funny names for "unbeatable" games such as yourself.
 
#8
Re: 21

It was surprising to see gy like Griffin, Binion,etc. listed.Since when did they do anything positive for Advantage Play.

Well, let's see, Griffin only wrote "The Theory of Blackjack". Guess you're right.
 

Theef

Active Member
#9
Re: No Snub

You WISH I would enter into a flame war. Instead, I'll just point out that the list contains members with far worse flaws than Don Schlesinger. If you disagree, please actually state your reasons. After all, I have on my bookshelf the Second Edition of a strong reason why he SHOULD be on the list. Or haven't those "in the know" found his work educational?
 
#10
A board is as strong as its members

If the members of a board refuse to engage in flame wars and insults -- there will be no flame wars or insults.

If the members of a board refuse to respond to trolls -- the trolls will troll elsewhere.

Now, how useful are 11 vs T and 11 vs 9 @ -4 indices?
 
#13
Re: 21

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This is what I meant!
 
#14
Re: No Snub

I'll just point out that the list contains <font color=red>members </font color=red>with far worse flaws than Don Schlesinger.

Please list those with "far worse flaws" than a guy who never had an original thought in his life. I'll give you one, Binion. Every other candidate has a significant reason for being on there above Schlesinger.

"Often wrong but never in doubt" would be the spot-on way to describe your posting style. You took great pleasure in belittling those on the old progression page yet spout nonsense yourself. Best to show a little humility in areas you know little about, and Theef, you've got a lot to learn.
 
#16
Here You Go...

BJ21.com: Main Free Message Board

You must be some kind of genius

Posted By: Theef <[email protected].com> on 25 January 02, 7:36 a.m. in response to: Theef, You

Are Wrong (A Real Player)

Theef, you're level of obnoxiousness is quite annoying. I've noticed you're real big on

taking on the easiest targets in an effort to show everyone how smart you are. The

reality is you're a low level cardcounter with minimal skills.


Like I'm going to take advice from A Real Player on how to avoid being obnoxious and

annoying. And anyway, I only make my targets SEEM easy. And I'm not out to show people

how smart I am. I'm out to show people how stupid THEY are. And you're the easiest target

yet.

Let It Deride, Casino Snore, Damaged 21, Caribbean Dud, and Re Tard Poker all have a

higher house edge than blackjack.

Of course, all of these games can be beaten by the astute advantage player with edges

far greater than ever found on a bj table. So while you're busy thinking up funny

names i'll be taking the money.


Ha! I used to think of you as that guy who held no opinions and only spoke up to attack Don

every two weeks. Now you've firmly entrenched yourself in the Frank Stanton voodoo

crackpot category. I never realized that "real players" played Let It Ride or Three Card Poker.

How can you get any advantage at all, let alone one that surpasses anything at a blackjack

table? The rest of us fake players want to know. Although somehow I doubt you'll provide any

specifics.
 

P.S.

New Member
#17
Re: No Snub

The most glaring omission of the inductees was that of Keith Taft. perhaps the greatest innovater ever in the blackjack world. Taft created "Thor", a shuffle tracking computer which liberated millions from casinos worldwide.

Now I know this will ruffle some newbie feathers but the most undeserving of the nominees to make it was definitely drug addicted, self serving Ken Uston.
 
#18
P.S.

The most glaring omission of the inductees was that of Keith Taft. perhaps the greatest innovater ever in the blackjack world. Taft created "Thor", a shuffle tracking computer which liberated millions from casinos worldwide.

Now I know this will ruffle some newbie feathers but the most undeserving of the nominees to make it was definitely drug addicted, self serving Ken Uston.
 
#19
Re: Here You Go...

I never realized that "real players" played Let It Ride or Three Card Poker.
How can you get any advantage at all, let alone one that surpasses anything at a blackjack table? The rest of us fake players want to know. Although somehow I doubt you'll provide any specifics.
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Thats where some of the bigger and more expert money gets played, right? zg
 
#20
I dont know Theef; I dont know Mr. Turner; but I do know that a lot of hot air has been dispenced over something that is over with. I am a regular here and it is becoming angry in here. Peace.
 
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