I have been using 3 different counting methods . When I first learned how to count I used the running count of ever + & - card leaving the deck. I thought my counting days were over the first trip. I then practiced cancelling cards as fast as I could( after the deal ) 4/Q 6/J k/Q 8/10 9/3 8/A J/K = MIN 5 . First 3 hands m 2 , last 4 m3 = m 5 This is ok if you have a slow dealer. I tried to get the count down to 3 seconds on a full table ,but was surprised how fast a dealer can be & D BJ made it even harder. I use this method with 3 or less players. My 3rd is to wait till all the cards have been dealt & follow the dealer to each spot & cancel out EX> 4/Q 6/J would be blank. I would like to hear some methods you guys use.. POGO