Counting Questions

BeeJay

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I've played basic strategy for 13 years but I only play an average of once a year. I don't know my overall success rate (or lack thereof) but I probably have lost more than I made.

Last week I played about 20 hours in the same casino and was either super hot or stone cold. I ended up losing about $500. I played anywhere from $10 to 80 depending on how hot I was at the time and how the shoe was going. Not once did I get questioned about varying my bet or have anyone check on me (I think).

I ended up getting pretty friendly with several of the dealers who gave me the basics of card counting and told me to learn it when I got home. They claimed that their casino didn't really care about card counters. I can't really go into detail as to why without giving the casino away, but given the very relaxed atmosphere and the relatively small amounts being wagered I believe it. Most tables were $5 min and most of the time there was one $10 table in the entire place. A couple of nights there was an occasional $25 table and the highest max bet I saw was $300.

My first question is if the statement about not caring if people count cards is true. Has anyone ever run into casinos that don't really sweat counting ?.

Also, I plan on buying a book or two but first I want to see if counting is for me. I have been practicing the HiLo method to start and want to find a list of the indexes for that method. Does anyone have a link to one?

There were 2 games to choose from at my casino. 6 deck w/ hit on soft 17, split aces but no double, and 3/2 BJ. The other one was single deck with 6/5 BJ, hit on s17, split aces but no double after split, and a maximum in the number of hands that could be dealt depending on the number of players. One player was maybe 5? hands. 2-3 players was something like 3? hands (I don't remember for sure), 4-5 players was something like 2 hands. Anyway, they also dealt all card face up. Which one would you choose an a basic strategy player and which one would a counter play?.

I will have a lot more Qs once I see an index but until then that it for now. Thanks in advance
 

avs21

Well-Known Member
BeeJay said:
I've played basic strategy for 13 years but I only play an average of once a year. I don't know my overall success rate (or lack thereof) but I probably have lost more than I made.

Last week I played about 20 hours in the same casino and was either super hot or stone cold. I ended up losing about $500. I played anywhere from $10 to 80 depending on how hot I was at the time and how the shoe was going. Not once did I get questioned about varying my bet or have anyone check on me (I think).

I ended up getting pretty friendly with several of the dealers who gave me the basics of card counting and told me to learn it when I got home. They claimed that their casino didn't really care about card counters. I can't really go into detail as to why without giving the casino away, but given the very relaxed atmosphere and the relatively small amounts being wagered I believe it. Most tables were $5 min and most of the time there was one $10 table in the entire place. A couple of nights there was an occasional $25 table and the highest max bet I saw was $300.

My first question is if the statement about not caring if people count cards is true. Has anyone ever run into casinos that don't really sweat counting ?.

Also, I plan on buying a book or two but first I want to see if counting is for me. I have been practicing the HiLo method to start and want to find a list of the indexes for that method. Does anyone have a link to one?

There were 2 games to choose from at my casino. 6 deck w/ hit on soft 17, split aces but no double, and 3/2 BJ. The other one was single deck with 6/5 BJ, hit on s17, split aces but no double after split, and a maximum in the number of hands that could be dealt depending on the number of players. One player was maybe 5? hands. 2-3 players was something like 3? hands (I don't remember for sure), 4-5 players was something like 2 hands. Anyway, they also dealt all card face up. Which one would you choose an a basic strategy player and which one would a counter play?.

I will have a lot more Qs once I see an index but until then that it for now. Thanks in advance
The single deck game is worthless unless the person was using advanced techniques like hole carding or some kind of sequencing. Stay away from 6/5 blackjack games they usually have the worst odds in the house. The six deck game would be a lot better for a BS player and counter. The casino would have over a 1.5% adv over the player even if they knew BS compared to a normal SD with 3/2 payout would be around .18 adv for the casino. Without knowing the penetration on the 6d you can't tell if the game was profitable for a counter.

I have played at casino's that didn't care if I was counter because my bet level was too low for me to be threat.
 
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