Do Online Casinos cut off winning players?

[Grasshopper]

I'm pretty new at this.

I have a small consistent Blackjack winning streak going in a reputable Online Casino. I understand the math and that the probability of an ongoing winning streak is, at best, a dream....

But, the question has started to foment in my brain. In the unlikely event this streak continues......

Will an Online Casino eventually ban me from playing if I continue to win? At what level might this happen? If I were winning $1,000 per month, leaving $2,000 in and withdrawing $1,000 every month would that raise any eyebrows? $2,000? $5,000? $10,000?

I am playing well within the limits set by the Casino, but this Casino states they will consider increasing betting minimums and maximums if the player requests. Is it a good idea for a big winner to request a higher limit? Or might that draw unwanted attention?

Would I be smarter to concentrate all my efforts on a single casino or spread the winnings over several casinos?

Appreciate any thoughts y'all might have.

 

[Sonny]

Will an Online Casino eventually ban me from playing if I continue to win?

A smart casino won't. They will want you to continue to play until you lose your money back. Unless your results are unlikely to be the result of pure luck they will do everything they can to keep you playing. They may even offer you more incentives to stay...if they are smart. If they are stupid then they will ban you and you will give their money to another casino.

Is it a good idea for a big winner to request a higher limit?

No. The casino recognizes that you have won some of their money and they want it back. They know that it was pure luck so they will try to entice you to play for higher stakes so they can win it back faster. They are also more likey to win back more money from you if you are playing for higher stakes.

Since you admit that your results were just lucky and are unlikely to continue, why would you consider raising your bets at all? Why would you worry about winning thousanrd of dollars a week? This is not something you need to worry about. I'm sure this will all be over before you know it. Relax and have fun gambling.

-Sonny-

 

[RJT]

Many online casinos will ban you - or at least stop offering you any incentive to play - if you too much. I've actually been barred simply for winning too much and actually knowing what i was doing at the time it was just unbelievable luck and the casino weren't happy about it. My mathematical expectation for the play with just under £100, but when my balance went over £20k, suddenly i can't log onto my account and my balance is refunded to my ewallet. That was actually a good result as i didn't have to fight them for it.
In my experience most online casinos only offer good incentives (bonuses) to those players that show substantive losing histories. Whether you are playing a mathematically good game and should have won or not seem to be fairly irrelevant - as long as you've lost you are likely to get goodies in the future.

RJT.

 

[Grasshopper]

I thought that was probably the case.

I keep detailed records and, while, not statistically out of the realm of reality it seems the game got harder after I had worked $100 into $400. My expected spread of 7.9% won to lost hands percentage went from about 6.9% to 9.1% average for all games in 1/2 of my total hands of about 2,800, which means it went way up over 9.1 to bring the average down. I put it all on spread sheet graphs and the graph showing the spread went from up and down to way up and way down dramatically at about 2,000 hands. I was taking data points about every 100 hands and converting to a per hour constant, so something happened. The graph should NOT have changed that dramatically all of a sudden. Trend line also changed dramatically at the same time.

Not statistically out of the park but kinda strange. Game just seemed a lot harder to play, so I stopped after losing about $150 at $1 hand with a mini-martingale after a string of losses. I know about Gamblers Fallacy....just playing around. Again, nothing statistically out of the park. In fact winning and losing streaks are waaayyyy below expected. I keep track of all streaks over 3.

Last night I went to the practice version and the percentage for 400 hands was 6.3% from. Think I'll play some practice hands to get a base % and then go online and see what it looks like.

Either way I will withdraw my original money and am playing on their money so that's a good thing.

 

[RJT]

I thought that was probably the case.

I keep detailed records and, while, not statistically out of the realm of reality it seems the game got harder after I had worked $100 into $400.

No that's not what i'm talking about at all - they don't change the games in the slightest, they just either lock your account so you can't play anymore or they simply stop giving you bonuses.

RJT.

 

[Grasshopper]

Sorry, guess I didn't communicate well. Not the first time for that.

You answered my question perfectly about being shut out and thank you.

However, I was also commenting, on how different the online games were from real playing and not only because of the re-shuffle every hand.

There seem to be two fears expressed by different posters. First, that the practice game and the paying game differ in difficulty. Second, that if you start to win then they make the game more difficult. I see no evidence clearly pointing to a yes or no on these two.

I thought the differences between expected and achieved results were quite interesting. Not sure if the differences help or hinder, but there are distinct differences.

Just finished 313 hands on the practice game and it was within 1/2% of expected won hands and lost hands. I must have hit some bad weather earlier. Funny, I never seem to appreciate the good weather when I am in it.

Thanks again for your answer. It was what I wanted to know. The rest was just me spouting hot air.

 

[fubster]

ultimate bet barred shaundeeb (professional tournament grinder) from blackjack after he won like 30k in a week

of course UB is run by chimps, so its not exactly the shock of the century

 

[RJT]

Sorry, guess I didn't communicate well. Not the first time for that.

You answered my question perfectly about being shut out and thank you.

However, I was also commenting, on how different the online games were from real playing and not only because of the re-shuffle every hand.

There seem to be two fears expressed by different posters. First, that the practice game and the paying game differ in difficulty. Second, that if you start to win then they make the game more difficult. I see no evidence clearly pointing to a yes or no on these two.

I thought the differences between expected and achieved results were quite interesting. Not sure if the differences help or hinder, but there are distinct differences.

Just finished 313 hands on the practice game and it was within 1/2% of expected won hands and lost hands. I must have hit some bad weather earlier. Funny, I never seem to appreciate the good weather when I am in it.

Thanks again for your answer. It was what I wanted to know. The rest was just me spouting hot air.

The first point is fairly simple to answer - some casinos do change the games payout weightings in play mode, however these casinos are few and far between.
As to making the games more difficult, it's complete nonsense. Utter garbage. There's no truth to it what so ever - i've played massive volumes of bets online in the last few years and have consistently come out at or around expectation. I've had unusual statistical events on both sides of the curve. When casinos do cheat - which is extreemly rare and more likely to be of the terms and conditions changing type - they simply have a game that doesn't play out as it should full stop. They don't flip a switch on winners to make them lose. A few of the very small joints use software that is suspect - but it's suspect start to finish, not just when you have a win.
In all the playing i've done i've never been - knowingly - cheated by unfair games. I have on several occasions found casinos changing their t+c to exclude certain games and trying to apply the new terms retroactively.

RJT.

 

[Grasshopper]

RJT,
Thanks for the info. I sort of figured what you said was true. But, with online games it is very easy to fear "the man behind curtain" those times when bad things happen. Not the same as when you actually watch the cards coming out of a deck

I've played quite a few hands more and also been reading about the system on the internet. I have less and less reason to believe there is somebody on the other side playing me like a fish.

Of course, it doesn't hurt that immediately after signing on last night, with a small purchase and matching bonus, I got 6 wins, followed 1 loss, followed by 5 wins. That, of course was my own personal skill...no doubt about it.

Thanks again, RJT, you hear so many people talking about rigged online games. It is nice to get some reassurance that the only thing I am fighting is the odds.