Does anyone use the 6/5 and other carnival-game listings in CBJN?

Al Rogers

Al Rogers

BJ21.com Administrator
It was recently suggested to me that we drop the listings of 6/5 and carnival games like Zappit from CBJN, which would result in the number of pages being substantially reduced, as well as reducing the work for reporters. My initial reaction was that it's a good idea, but I would like to hear if anyone uses those listings. Thanks.

Al Rogers
BJ21.com/CBJN
 
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xengrifter

Banned
I don't have any use for the carnivals...
... but I would like to see the sucker bets available, and then I would have use for some corresponding 6/5s.
 
JohnCrover

JohnCrover

Banned
xengrifter said:
I don't have any use for the carnivals...
... but I would like to see the sucker bets available, and then I would have use for some corresponding 6/5s.
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Agreed, sucker bets + pay tables.
 
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Dummy

Well-Known Member
Hopefully you aren't referring to BJ variants as Carney games. They are more desirable to play than Bj for many reasons.
 
gronbog

gronbog

Well-Known Member
In the case of 6/5, I think that knowing whether these are the only games offered at a given casino is valuable information.

In the case of all games, they may be beatable for a variety of reasons and knowing that they are offered may be of value to some.
 
Ryemo

Ryemo

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hitthat16 said:
I don’t see the problem with the number of pages the publication currently has.
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The problem isn’t the length of CBJN. The problem is the fact that it’s a big task for reporters with very little in return (the small pay). As a result, many reporters will not take the time to make monthly updates, so CBJN will rarely get updated. If that happens, CBJN will lose customers. If CBJN loses enough customers, then the publication cannot survive.

So the idea that Al Rogers is suggesting is to cut out the fat from CBJN, make the work load a little smaller for the reports, therefore giving them incentive (less work for the same money) to get more consistent updates. Make sense?
 
Hell'nBack

Hell'nBack

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CBJN has been bloated with useless crap. I have never been a subscriber. It needs a serious overhauling.
 
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hitthat16

Active Member
I disagree that omitting 6:5 would reduce the workload for the reporters. After all, you still have to look at a blackjack table and determine if it is 6:5 or not. If it is indeed 6:5, might as well report it.
 
Ryemo

Ryemo

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hitthat16 said:
I disagree that omitting 6:5 would reduce the workload for the reporters. After all, you still have to look at a blackjack table and determine if it is 6:5 or not. If it is indeed 6:5, might as well report it.
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Have you reported for CBJN before? I have. It’s a pain in the ass. I’ve reported for as many as 15 different casinos (not consistently). If I knew one pit was all 6:5, then I wouldn’t even have to bother with gauging penetration, table minimum, table max, how many tables in the pit, etc. This might make reporting much easier in Vegas strip properties, where majority of the tables on the main floor are 6:5.
 
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21forme

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I've been a CBJN reporter for a number of years. I agree with hitthat16. You still have to take the time to go in the casino, scan all the tables, etc. In some casinos, the 6:5 signs are well hidden, very small, on an electronic sign that switches between panes for rules, sidebets, table limits, etc.; or hidden under spread cards at an empty table.

Honestly, I'm not sure how much longer I'll be doing it. My Green Chip membership expires during the summer. I'll probably be dropping it at that time, as the forum is dead and they did a poor job reinventing the wheel with custom forum software, when several excellent commercial alternatives are available.
 
Ryemo

Ryemo

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I’m thinking of a casino like MGM for example. There’s almost 60 blackjack tables in there, but more than half are 6:5. Knowing that you can skip more than half the tables saves so much time. Think about how many casinos are like that just on the strip.

As for casinos in other parts of the country, I guess you need to have other reasons to be there, other than just for reporting. It isn’t worth driving out of your way for.
 
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hitthat16

Active Member
When it comes to a casino like Binions which is all 6:5, then sure I can see skipping it entirely. But when it comes to other places I have seen tables switch between 6:5 and 3:2 in either direction.
 
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xengrifter

Banned
Ryemo said:
6:5 games. Does anyone have use for that information? Cut out 6:5 and that will make reporting way easier in Vegas.
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I want the 6/5 IF relevant sucker bets are included, like LuckyLucky, KBounty, Buster, etc.
 
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DSchles

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Badbeat said:
CBJN has the house edge for double deck at Southpoint as .40. In the notes it says the dealer does not check for a natural with a 10 showing. How come this isn’t reflected in the house edge? I would sometimes be doubling and splitting a hand I’ve already lost and in effect losing more money overall when the dealer has a natural than I would normally lose.
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No, it makes no difference. Not checking is NOT the same as ENHC. You don't lose all to a subsequent dealer natural.

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Talmadge

Talmadge

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The HE will remain the same if they use the rule OBO, where they remove your original bet only on a dealer bj regardless if you did split or double.
 
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