Info on Tulalip Casino

[laziboi]

Hey, can someone give me details on the Tulalip Casino's BJ?

Most importantly do they use an ASM or CSM?

Thanks.

 

[Diver]

Hey, can someone give me details on the Tulalip Casino's BJ?

Most importantly do they use an ASM or CSM? Thanks.

As of a year ago, the one time I went there during a break from something else I had to do in the area, I did not see any CSM. I was there on a Saturday late afternoon and it was busy. There are several large pits so back counting is possible. According to CBJN, there's still no LS.

 

[FLASH1296]

Why would it matter they use an ASM or CSM?

In the former case the game is dreadful and in the latter case there is no way to play.

CBJN’s current edition does NOT list C.S.M.’s; and CBJN never notes A.S.M.’s

 

[assume_R]

Why would it matter they use an ASM or CSM?

In the former case the game is dreadful

Why is it dreadful to use ASM's? Don't they simply increase the hands per hour, while presumably negating any realistic chance for shuffle tracking?

Or were you referring to other aspects of the game

 

[Blue Efficacy]

Why is it dreadful to use ASM's? Don't they simply increase the hands per hour, while presumably negating any realistic chance for shuffle tracking?

Or were you referring to other aspects of the game

Maybe FLASH thinks they stack the cards in the house's favor.:joker:

 

[FLASH1296]

I should have made it clear.

I was NOT referring to the use of the ASM’s, per se.

I was referring to the high House Advantage that this casino enjoys.

 

[laziboi]

Why does this casino have such a big house advantage?

Horrible Pen? no LS? what else?

 

[FLASH1296]

From C.B.J.N.:

Tables open only from 1000 to 0600.
Requires table Max bets to wager on three (3) spots.
There are 16 ordinary BJ tables, not that many will be open.
They are SIX Deckers with H17, DAS, and RSA.
Tables are all $5 to $500
The e.v. on this game is listed as -.56

Yuck. Not a game that I would waste my time on !

Note: info above on Tulalip'sin CBJN is dated by ½ yr.

 

[Diver]

Why does this casino have such a big house advantage?

Horrible Pen? no LS? what else?

Penetration is 75% at best. No LS.

 

[Blue Efficacy]

From C.B.J.N.:

Tables open only from 1000 to 0600.
Requires table Max bets to wager on three (3) spots.
There are 16 ordinary BJ tables, not that many will be open.
They are SIX Deckers with H17, DAS, and RSA.
Tables are all $5 to $500
The e.v. on this game is listed as -.56

Yuck. Not a game that I would waste my time on !

Note: info above on Tulalip'sin CBJN is dated by ½ yr.

My bread and butter games are H17 RSA.

Any good player can beat that game with a cut of 1.5 or preferably less.

I suspect flash is just being a drama queen, if this game was .63 or worse then he might have a point.

 

[NightStalker]

tulalip

doesn't have surrender and it is highly crowded on weekends. Pit is mostly tolerant but eye is pretty sharp. You may want to try Quil Ceda which has same blackjack game but allows redouble on their spanish game..

 

[EmeraldCityBJ]

All the BJ tables use a ShuffleMaster MD1 ASM, although there was a brief period of time earlier this year when they were hand shuffling because they ordered the wrong size of cards for the shufflers. I doubt you'll see this again.

The info in CBJN has been updated within the last 2-3 months, and I don't think anything has changed significantly since the last update. Over the last year or so, they've gotten more sweaty - especially if you wong.

 

[Bondy3]

All the BJ tables use a ShuffleMaster MD1 ASM, although there was a brief period of time earlier this year when they were hand shuffling because they ordered the wrong size of cards for the shufflers. I doubt you'll see this again.

The info in CBJN has been updated within the last 2-3 months, and I don't think anything has changed significantly since the last update. Over the last year or so, they've gotten more sweaty - especially if you wong.

they didnt order the wrong size cards, they ordered the wrong color of cards, the ASMs use 2 shoes of different color cards and they need to have different colors because if a card gets messed up they need to know what shoe its for. the trouble was that they only had red cards. that was a fun week because the dealers were cutting to 1 deck because they didnt like shuffling

 

[NightStalker]

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they didnt order the wrong size cards, they ordered the wrong color of cards, the ASMs use 2 shoes of different color cards and they need to have different colors because if a card gets messed up they need to know what shoe its for. the trouble was that they only had red cards. that was a fun week because the dealers were cutting to 1 deck because they didnt like shuffling

when was this happen?

 

[FLASH1296]

Bondy3,

You are mistaken when you say that … "dealers were cutting to 1 deck because they didnt like shuffling"

Dealers appreciate the change of pace afforded shuffling. They consider it quasi-rest.

It provides a handy demarcation allowing the passage of time to be "felt" as having shuffled so many times.
This is similar to how we "mark time" via numerous artifices e.g. hours in a day, days in a week, etc.

NOTE: I have never met a dealer who failed to despise casino CSM's.
If, as you think, dealers hated shuffling, they'd clamor to work CSM tables.

 

[NightStalker]

I agree with Bondy

Bondy3,

You are mistaken when you say that … "dealers were cutting to 1 deck because they didnt like shuffling"

It definitely vary per dealer but I've seen the trend that dealer prefer ASM over hand-shuffle and I expect better pen on hand shuffle. They make money ONLY while playing not shuffling..

 

[Blue Efficacy]

Bondy3,

You are mistaken when you say that … "dealers were cutting to 1 deck because they didnt like shuffling"

Dealers appreciate the change of pace afforded shuffling. They consider it quasi-rest.

It provides a handy demarcation allowing the passage of time to be "felt" as having shuffled so many times.
This is similar to how we "mark time" via numerous artifices e.g. hours in a day, days in a week, etc.

NOTE: I have never met a dealer who failed to despise casino CSM's.
If, as you think, dealers hated shuffling, they'd clamor to work CSM tables.

Flash is right, every dealer is exactly the same, with the same preferences. Every dealer I have ever observed who acted as though or plainly mentioned they didn't like to shuffle must have been merely trying to deceive me.