la_dee_daa
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ok the game i play offers late surrender but if you take insurance you can no longer surender you hand which i found out today.... would this effect at what count you take insurance by losing this option?
insurance but then no surender??
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Automatic Monkey
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Interesting. If you have to choose one or the other, you should probably opt to surrender. The reason is that at the count where you start to take insurance, surrender becomes a very profitable play.
The exception I can think of is a high-index surrender play like 13 vs. 10, 14 vs. 9 or 14 vs. A, because at the counts where you're just starting to take those, insurance becomes a very profitable play.
la_dee_daa
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yea this is what i though i should have done. i ended up getting 2 16s v A so i take insurance but what do i find out i cant surrender now pshhhhhhhhhh, count was 3.5...and of course the dealer pulls a 21 but not a natural... this is the only had that really bothered me today and on top of that the dealer was a real a** hole got in an argument with a lady to signaled a stand and hit her and just took her money end of story, also hit my 14v 5 when i wasn't even looking at the table but accidently signaled a hit playing with my chips which was kinda annoying, but a min bet...
i think its just a real stupid rule they are 2 seperate bets!
Did you check with the pit? Maybe, just maybe, the dealer was confused. I have never encountered a casino that would not allow both bets on the same hand. Why wouldn't they, since if you missed the insurance bet(50%) and surrendered(50%), wouldn't it guarantee them a winning hand(100%)? Is it possible that there is a gaming commission somewhere that believes it would help the player?????
la_dee_daa
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some other guy asked the pit who was next to him and i think they said it was a new rule coming up around this area. next time i go im going to ask a few other dealers and a few other pits about this and if i don't get the same answear from each of them...... :flame:
yea either way they win some money if dealer gets blackjack they win nothing but if they don't get blackjack they end of winning the amount of my orignal bet rather then the 1.5 bets they did get..
la_dee_daa
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no worries about heat the pits are more worried about the dealers making idiot moves which happens way to often.. even the cage almost paid me out an extra $150 because she couldn't add my black and green chips up lol.
la_dee_daa
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key word was almost it took 2 checks to make sure i got the "right" amount. And most errors like this tend to be taking my pushing or winning bets. If she didn't get someone to check it i would have got that nice extra bonus though
la_dee_daa
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well i talked to a different pit and got this situation resolved..
turns out its a old rule from a few months ago and some dealers and the pit still dont know about it.... so after getting the manager and checking the camera i got the money back for the surrender of the hands ($75) was hoping i could get the full 225 but 75 is better then none..
i guess people dont take innsurance and surrender much!!!!
turns out its a old rule from a few months ago and some dealers and the pit still dont know about it.... so after getting the manager and checking the camera i got the money back for the surrender of the hands ($75) was hoping i could get the full 225 but 75 is better then none..
i guess people dont take innsurance and surrender much!!!!