Is changing dealers heat?

[Gamblor]

Had the "misfortune" of winning several hands in a row of +10 unit bets, and winning a huge spread bet (+20'ish units) that involved a split double. This immediately attracted a PC suit convention, so I lowered my bet to something more reasonable, and continued to win about 4 more hands in a row after that.

While the dealer was shuffling, the PC brought in a new dealer. They took the old dealer to the back shed for a whipping I assume, kind of felt bad for him

Would anyone consider this card counter heat? Stupid thing was the new dealer they brought in, she was actually less chatty and a slower dealer, so not sure what to make of this.

At the time was worried it might have been card counter heat, but looking back at it, it was probably the casino being overly careful. Took some precautions that probably cost me some potential chips.

Think we've all too frequently been in the situation where we lose hand after hand, dreading that we'll lose the next hand, getting that "supernatural" feeling that the cards and the cosmos are out of balance. Good news everyone, there are the all too rare times we experience the opposite situation, where we win hand after hand, and "know" we'll keep winning and do, and get a "supernatural" feeling that the cards and the universe are perfectly in balance. When the PC convention started hawking my play, at the time I actually dreaded winning another hand, but knew I would Looking back at it now, winning all these hands in a row probably put more heat on the dealer than me.

 

[blackjack avenger]

Obvious Heat

Big Bets drew heat
multiple winning drew heat
if they noticed the spread that probably drew heat

If suits were huddled and watching you had heat

switching dealers was of little consequence

 

[Dyepaintball12]

No it's not heat. Changing dealers would have no affect on the outcome so they wouldn't benefit from it.

 

[BJgenius007]

No it's not heat. Changing dealers would have no affect on the outcome so they wouldn't benefit from it.

I have been changed 4 dealers in a span of two minutes. One dealer not even dealt one hand. Each dealer burnt a card (the casino doesn't let people to see it, strange rule, I know.)

 

[moo321]

Why did you drop your bet down? Was the count still high? This doesn't even sound like heat to me, and if it is, you finish the shoe and leave.

 

[Gamblor]

Why did you drop your bet down? Was the count still high? This doesn't even sound like heat to me, and if it is, you finish the shoe and leave.

Dropped it after the PC convention started gathering. At the time seemed like a sensible thing to do, now looking back at it, probably would have been ok to keep the bet up, as I think they didn't even suspect me of counting. Most situations after a series of big bet, I do leave, but in this case I did not.

On the other hand better to be safe than sorry, its a casino I visit semi-regularly so did some camouflage-y things. Probably just wound up costing myself some chips unnecessarily.

 

[Sharky]

none of these examples changed anything unless, of course, they were Voodoo PC's :laugh::whip:

 

[moo321]

Dropped it after the PC convention started gathering. At the time seemed like a sensible thing to do, now looking back at it, probably would have been ok to keep the bet up, as I think they didn't even suspect me of counting. Most situations after a series of big bet, I do leave, but in this case I did not.

On the other hand better to be safe than sorry, its a casino I visit semi-regularly so did some camouflage-y things. Probably just wound up costing myself some chips unnecessarily.

Yeah, if they back you off in the middle of a hot shoe, then it happens. But you can't pull a bit back in response to a bunch of suits. Hell, they probably weren't even talking about you.

Basically, don't back yourself off. You don't have enough edge to use a lot of cover.

 

[beating vegas]

Had the "misfortune" of winning several hands in a row of +10 unit bets, and winning a huge spread bet (+20'ish units) that involved a split double. This immediately attracted a PC suit convention, so I lowered my bet to something more reasonable, and continued to win about 4 more hands in a row after that.

While the dealer was shuffling, the PC brought in a new dealer. They took the old dealer to the back shed for a whipping I assume, kind of felt bad for him

Would anyone consider this card counter heat? Stupid thing was the new dealer they brought in, she was actually less chatty and a slower dealer, so not sure what to make of this.

At the time was worried it might have been card counter heat, but looking back at it, it was probably the casino being overly careful. Took some precautions that probably cost me some potential chips.

Think we've all too frequently been in the situation where we lose hand after hand, dreading that we'll lose the next hand, getting that "supernatural" feeling that the cards and the cosmos are out of balance. Good news everyone, there are the all too rare times we experience the opposite situation, where we win hand after hand, and "know" we'll keep winning and do, and get a "supernatural" feeling that the cards and the universe are perfectly in balance. When the PC convention started hawking my play, at the time I actually dreaded winning another hand, but knew I would Looking back at it now, winning all these hands in a row probably put more heat on the dealer than me.

i wouldn't worry about it . i would of kept my bet high . thats just my opion

 

[alwayssplitaces]

In craps, casinos may change the dealers and/or the dice if a shooter is hot. Casinos are superstitious too.

 

[kewljason]

Never happened to me personally, but I have read about casinos using super fast dealers as a form of countermeasure hoping to throw off a counter. A decent counter will appreciate this as he gets in more hands per hour. :laugh: Although in reality, his time at that table is surely limited.

The thing is that the dealer really doesn't control the pace of the game as much as the player. You can easily slow down a dealer that is too quick for you. Sometimes it's just fun to do. Sometimes it can throw them off their game and that can be beneficial.

 

[itrack]

I once witnessed my friend have about 5 or 6 dealer changes in a matter of a half hour. At this time, he was winning almost every single hand, and raking up the chips. In the meantime, I was sitting at a table just across the pit and my dealer stayed there for what seemed like eternity. The worst part was, I think I offset his wins with almost equal losses

Also, it's always good to know the casino's schedule for events like this. At one of my local casinos, 7:00 PM is a horrible time for dealer changes. All of the pit bosses get together at the center of the pit and try to come up with a schedule for the night, and this usually results in a huge clusterf*** with dealers having no idea where they are going. Then 20 minutes later, lots of them change again to get into their rotaions for the night. This could have been similar to what the OP was experiencing.

 

[Cardcounter]

dealers are changed every 40 minutes in a casino win or lose it was probably just time for the dealers break. Dealers work 40 minutes than have a 20 minute break. Being a dealer is the greatest job for getting breaks ever. At worst you work an hour than get a 20 minute break.