Legalities of counting - AC vs LV laws?

ACE

Active Member
#1
Can someone run down for me a summary of the counting laws in both AC and LV.

What can they do if they catch you etc. Never read a good summary of this but would be interested as I visit both places an equal amount during a year.
 

The Mayor

Well-Known Member
#2
In Las Vegas they can read you the tresspass act and tell you that you will be arrested if you return to the property. That's about it, from a legal standpoint. If they ask for your ID, you can say no. If they ask you to remain on the premisis, you can leave. If they force you to go to a backroom, you can file felony abduction charges. However casinos often illegally transmit your digital image, your financial information, and other private information, without your consent in violation of the Gramm-Leach-Bliley act (see article by CardKountr on this site).

And more, of course.

--Mayor
 
#3
Although AC Casinos cannot "bar" you or read you the Trespass Law simply for being suspected as a skilled player as they do in LV, the AC casinos can legally take other actions such as cutting the shoe in half or more, restricting you to one hand, reshuffling anytime, or a flat bet restriction for you. They can employ any one or multiple actions cited above.

NJ law requires the casinos to offer a 10 to 1 spread on any game with less than a $100 min, therefore once they identify you as a counter, in lieu of a flat bet restriction, the casino can just changes the table min to $5 with a $50 max and then ask everyone else at the table (other than you) if they want permission to bet higher than the new posted limits while combining the other permissible actions to thwart you. So essentially it is tantamount to the same effect as a barring.

May all the dealers blackjacks occur while you're in the bathroom!!

Card.
 
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