Need your guy's help with strange tournament rule

Deathclutch

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Alright everyone, I'm currently in a tournament where insurance is handled a bit different than normal. Insurance still pays 2:1 but you can insure up to your full bet. So if you bet $100 you can insure $100 to win $200. I'm using Hi Opt II and currently am taking insurance at a TC of 5 but don't have any idea how this would effect the numer I should take it at since I'm now making money on insurance and not just saving my bet. 6 decks by the way. Thank you for your help.
 
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That is strange.. I would say in a tourney when the indice calls for it, take the full EV, trust in the math!!

Have you seen my friends??

Best to you Young Gun.

Friend,
CP
 

FLASH1296

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Of course in a tournament taking insurance can be a useful ploy for the chip leader, irrespective of the True Count.

Especially as one does NOT count cards in a tournament.
 

SleightOfHand

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As long as insurance still pays 2:1, it does not make a difference as to what TC you should take it as, it just allows you to put more $ on the table when the event occurs. However, remember that CC is practically useless for tournaments, as you are not playing in relation to the EV vs the dealer but against players. Im not very learned in tournament strategy so Im not sure how much of a difference this rule would have for the game.
 
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SleightOfHand said:
As long as insurance still pays 2:1, it does not make a difference as to what TC you should take it as, it just allows you to put more $ on the table when the event occurs. However, remember that CC is practically useless for tournaments, as you are not playing in relation to the EV vs the dealer but against players. Im not very learned in tournament strategy so Im not sure how much of a difference this rule would have for the game.
I have played in many and still do,,,,CC is very usefull,,,,,of this I know;)

CP
 

Deathclutch

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creeping panther said:
I have played in many and still do,,,,CC is very usefull,,,,,of this I know;)

CP
I'm with CP here. I don't use it like I normally would but having a high PE and IC in a tournament never hurts. It factors into my bet almost never. I'm still trying to figure out which one it is CP there are about 4 people here thatatvh the description. I'll figure it out haha!

Edit: nvm I found them. Thanks CP!
 
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daddybo

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Deathclutch said:
Alright everyone, I'm currently in a tournament where insurance is handled a bit different than normal. Insurance still pays 2:1 but you can insure up to your full bet. So if you bet $100 you can insure $100 to win $200. I'm using Hi Opt II and currently am taking insurance at a TC of 5 but don't have any idea how this would effect the numer I should take it at since I'm now making money on insurance and not just saving my bet. 6 decks by the way. Thank you for your help.
Always take it full bet with a dealer 10 under!:laugh::laugh::laugh:

In a tournament it would depend on how your initial bet correlates to the others bets... and where you are in the hand count.... Best, I remember you have a good IC count, so it would probably make sense math wise to work some numbers.... but you have to judge the situation.

I did some "Quick" math ... and I come up with roughly +6 TC for the advantage. (check me's welcome)
 
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