Negative TC count deviations from B/S (besides leaving and going to the bar)

[MARTYK]

My Experience Tells Me If The Dealer Is Running Hot. Go To Lunch, Regardless Of The Count.
If The Dealer Is Busting Or You R Running Hot, Press, Regardless Of Count. Luck Is The Most Important Factor.do Not Blow Your Wad,following "rules" If Luck Is Against You.besides, You Will Get More Comps If You Are Not Obviously Counting.
Remember, If The True Count Is High, The Dealere Can Buy The Good Cards

 

[sagefr0g]

... due to the rarity with which they appear??

lol, right for example here is about a 13,000 hand session for six deck game i've been playing on cvbj. definately split and soft double opportunities are rare compared to the hard doubles.......

 

[AnIrishmannot2brite]

My Experience Tells Me If The Dealer Is Running Hot. Go To Lunch, Regardless Of The Count.
If The Dealer Is Busting Or You R Running Hot, Press, Regardless Of Count. Luck Is The Most Important Factor.do Not Blow Your Wad,following "rules" If Luck Is Against You.besides, You Will Get More Comps If You Are Not Obviously Counting.
Remember, If The True Count Is High, The Dealer Can Buy The Good Cards

I've wondered that myself. A "hot" dealer busting the ass of the whole table. When the count is neutral and I'm losing four out of five flat bets I have a tendency to view the dealer negatively. Natural feeling even if it has no basis in probability.

However there is no discounting the power of both positive AND negative thinking. When a dealer is winning or wicked fast at dealing I tend to go to the mens room or the bar. Just not worth the negative energy.

Some of the more successful card players I know take breaks every thirty minutes. Must have something to do with the attitude.

Does attitude affect cards?

In three dimensional reality the answer is no. But in the psychological sphere it surely does.

Or do "killer dealers" have a real effect? Sure seems so. I know one dealer i Always win with. Or so it seems. I don't play her much as it's a CSM casino and I've recently found much better rooms up the pike. However it sticks with me that i tend to get a lot of 21's even on my stiff hands when she deals. She also seems supportive. I win five to ten units every time she walks in the room.

Then there are dealers who seem to come from hell. I won't play them just as my perception is that I've lost from them before and don't want to repeat the same process. A distraction to say the least.

Appearances are EVERYTHING.

 

[aslan]

I've wondered that myself. A "hot" dealer busting the ass of the whole table. When the count is neutral and I'm losing four out of five flat bets I have a tendency to view the dealer negatively. Natural feeling even if it has no basis in probability.

However there is no discounting the power of both positive AND negative thinking. When a dealer is winning or wicked fast at dealing I tend to go to the mens room or the bar. Just not worth the negative energy.

Some of the more successful card players I know take breaks every thirty minutes. Must have something to do with the attitude.

Does attitude affect cards?

In three dimensional reality the answer is no. But in the psychological sphere it surely does.

Or do "killer dealers" have a real effect? Sure seems so. I know one dealer i Always win with. Or so it seems. I don't play her much as it's a CSM casino and I've recently found much better rooms up the pike. However it sticks with me that i tend to get a lot of 21's even on my stiff hands when she deals. She also seems supportive. I win five to ten units every time she walks in the room.

Then there are dealers who seem to come from hell. I won't play them just as my perception is that I've lost from them before and don't want to repeat the same process. A distraction to say the least.

Appearances are EVERYTHING.

It's not logical that a dealer is lucky or unlucky, that attitude makes any difference if we follow the same rules no matter what attitude we have, or that fast dealers are more successful than slow....but it sure seems so! One thing....our attitude and/or perception of what seems to be happening can influence our card playing decisions if we are not extremely careful.

 

[AnIrishmannot2brite]

It's not logical that a dealer is lucky or unlucky, that attitude makes any difference if we follow the same rules no matter what attitude we have, or that fast dealers are more successful than slow....but it sure seems so! One thing....our attitude and/or perception of what seems to be happening can influence our card playing decisions if we are not extremely careful.

Well sure however there's no discounting the psychological. This isn't something for the Voodoo board either.

There have been studies where people were exposed to a negative thought early in the day. A man walks in to the office at work one morning and the confederate of the study group says to him "Gee Bob you look just awful. Do you have a cold virus or something"?

In fact Bob isn't ill at all, nor is his appearance different from normal but the psychological effect of the negative energy makes him have a bad day. he may even catch a cold or stomach problem from the suggested (untrue) remark.

So it is with certain dealers. Like the one I had the other night who always fakes like he has a blackjack under every ace. Makes a motion like he's going to tip his hole card for a natural and everyone at the table freezes. No blackjack though. He makes it appear like he's trying to be funny and maybe it is a sincere effort to make us laugh. However it really isn't funny to anyone.

The dealers I have the better feeling with are usually women of any age who are competent, not overly fast and appreciative of tips and compliments. Under these conditions I can drop a hundred dollar bet and not feel depleted on a emotional level.

As for the more "sinister" type dealers? I drop thirty bucks and feel like crap. Especially if he's of the shaved head variety. There's just something wrong with a guy that shaves his head bald. It's a popular style here but I feel like there's just something wrong with baldness that isn't natural.

Like they're trying to get attention by appearing evil.

Not that there's anything wrong with naturally bald men. Just the ones who shave it off on purpose. Will never understand that.

 

[aslan]

Especially if he's of the shaved head variety. There's just something wrong with a guy that shaves his head bald. It's a popular style here but I feel like there's just something wrong with baldness that isn't natural.

Like they're trying to get attention by appearing evil.

Not that there's anything wrong with naturally bald men. Just the ones who shave it off on purpose. Will never understand that.

If here is Vegas, maybe they are emulating Agassi, the tennis pro.

 

[AnIrishmannot2brite]

If here is Vegas, maybe they are emulating Agassi, the tennis pro.

So that's who they are copying. I just thought it was a sure sign of a redneck. Or to avoid wearing a Donald Trump comeover.

I's like to take the time right here to thank my parents for giving me some hereditary resistance to balding...

 

[rollem411]

My Experience Tells Me If The Dealer Is Running Hot. Go To Lunch, Regardless Of The Count.
If The Dealer Is Busting Or You R Running Hot, Press, Regardless Of Count. Luck Is The Most Important Factor.do Not Blow Your Wad,following "rules" If Luck Is Against You.besides, You Will Get More Comps If You Are Not Obviously Counting.
Remember, If The True Count Is High, The Dealere Can Buy The Good Cards

Won't this inevitably kill your long-term success rate. From what I've learned, i thought that even though you have that bad feeling that you are going to get another stiff hand when the count is high is something you have to deal with. The probability of winning is on your side and you can't let the 3 or 4 losses in a row effect your play. I try to suck it up and play consistently, even though its really tough when you see your BR slowly decreasing.

 

[aslan]

Won't this inevitably kill your long-term success rate. From what I've learned, i thought that even though you have that bad feeling that you are going to get another stiff hand when the count is high is something you have to deal with. The probability of winning is on your side and you can't let the 3 or 4 losses in a row effect your play. I try to suck it up and play consistently, even though its really tough when you see your BR slowly decreasing.

Technically you're right. But if I can't enjoy myself I'd rather not play, especially if there are plenty of other tables. I had a dealer at Treasure Island who was more sarcastic and ball-busting than Don Rickles. I laughed at all his attempts at humor (in an attempt to not let him get under my skin), but I quickly got away from that table. I feel the same way with dealers who slam the cards down as if they know they are going to bust you. I don't like being around obnoxious people--they get under my skin. But I will stay a few rounds in hopes of seeing the dealer lose hand after hand. That is especially entertaining, turning an otherwise unhappy experience into a divine comedy!

 

[rollem411]

Very true. Some dealers just like to see people lose. Probably cause their at work and pissed off so they try to bring everyone else down. ha.