online counting?
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Don't Bother!
It would be pointles looking because almost 99.99 % internet casinos shuffler after each round! They are not crazy to let you count. Players would bankrup industry!
Even if some casinos do not shuffle after each round they probably do after they deal 15% of cards out of 6 decks shoe. That penetration is very bad! Counting won't work in that situation.
The only thing you can do is to find safe online casino to play in, with some nice favorable rules for players, and very small house edge.
It would be pointles looking because almost 99.99 % internet casinos shuffler after each round! They are not crazy to let you count. Players would bankrup industry!
Even if some casinos do not shuffle after each round they probably do after they deal 15% of cards out of 6 decks shoe. That penetration is very bad! Counting won't work in that situation.
The only thing you can do is to find safe online casino to play in, with some nice favorable rules for players, and very small house edge.
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2 out of 8
2 decks out of 8 is 25% penetration.
What is table limit and table maximum? I dont think that their table limits will give you big enough spread, to make card counting work. 25% is nothing.
We always say in 6 deck shoe that we need about 60 % deck penetration minimum, and still have to spread 1:20 our bets to make it profitable.
I don't think that we should tell people "yes you can count in that casino", we should explain them first if counting is going to work or not. And obviously 25% penetration is nothing in 8 deck game.
We don't suppose to just give dry facts but explain people what really works and what is just marketing.
Yes all those casinos do not shuffle after each round but card counting doesn't work in those games.
2 decks out of 8 is 25% penetration.
What is table limit and table maximum? I dont think that their table limits will give you big enough spread, to make card counting work. 25% is nothing.
We always say in 6 deck shoe that we need about 60 % deck penetration minimum, and still have to spread 1:20 our bets to make it profitable.
I don't think that we should tell people "yes you can count in that casino", we should explain them first if counting is going to work or not. And obviously 25% penetration is nothing in 8 deck game.
We don't suppose to just give dry facts but explain people what really works and what is just marketing.
Yes all those casinos do not shuffle after each round but card counting doesn't work in those games.
I agree that card counting won't make much profit in these games. Back when I ran sims on the Cryptologic game, I think I came up with an expected profit of something like $5 per hour, spreading the bets up to $150 and leaving the table in negative counts. That's a lot of work, and a lot of risk for a very small gain.
So, you're right, I should have been more detailed in my response.
It's better than nothing, but don't expect to make much money counting online. In general, the money to be made online is in bonuses and promotions. Profiting from online play is tougher than it was a few years back, but there are still opportunities out there.
So, you're right, I should have been more detailed in my response.
It's better than nothing, but don't expect to make much money counting online. In general, the money to be made online is in bonuses and promotions. Profiting from online play is tougher than it was a few years back, but there are still opportunities out there.
When I first started with BJ and card counting, it was so many books so many different things, 100000000000 "fairy tails about getting rich" , and it took a while to find out a truth. I had so many problems finding right information , that now I feel I should always tell people the truth and reality. It is easier that way for them, so they don't get dissapointed, and plus new players will have right information and will learn the difference between good and bad games, and will be "BJ educated" , so they wont play all those stupid games with stupid rules that casinos are trying to push so hard (6:5 etc), plus CSMs ......... It is better for them and us.
By the way , yes I agree Ken with huge bet spread you can profit a little bit , but as you said it is not worth a risk because of such a small profit. Plus Bonuses and Promotions are definitelly way to go with online casinos!
BJ!BJ!BJ!
By the way , yes I agree Ken with huge bet spread you can profit a little bit , but as you said it is not worth a risk because of such a small profit. Plus Bonuses and Promotions are definitelly way to go with online casinos!
BJ!BJ!BJ!
there is one more
There is actually a Russian online operation, Shans Online Casino, whose Blackjack game deals into the deck. It's 6 deck-blackjack, with 2 thirds dealt before a shuffle takes place. The rules are pretty sound as well. Resplits, double down after split, blackjack 3:2, hits allowed on split aces. minimum $0,1 and the maximum $10. I surmise employing an unbalanced count would be preferable here, since you can't visually estimate the number of remaining decks, which makes it tough to use balanced systems with true count conversions.
There is actually a Russian online operation, Shans Online Casino, whose Blackjack game deals into the deck. It's 6 deck-blackjack, with 2 thirds dealt before a shuffle takes place. The rules are pretty sound as well. Resplits, double down after split, blackjack 3:2, hits allowed on split aces. minimum $0,1 and the maximum $10. I surmise employing an unbalanced count would be preferable here, since you can't visually estimate the number of remaining decks, which makes it tough to use balanced systems with true count conversions.
Shans
I went there. At EVERY other site I've ever been to, the look is professional, and the English is impeccable. This site has missing words and errors and scares me. Again, have you played and been paid there. I would LOVE to find a site where I could count on-line, but this one smacks of trouble without information to indicate otherwise.
I went there. At EVERY other site I've ever been to, the look is professional, and the English is impeccable. This site has missing words and errors and scares me. Again, have you played and been paid there. I would LOVE to find a site where I could count on-line, but this one smacks of trouble without information to indicate otherwise.