Rated

[bisoy]

Do you think you should be rated if you are an advantage player?

 

[21forme]

Obvious pro - comps.

Con - sooner or later someone (or maybe just the computer) sees your winnings significantly exceed the EV over a long enough period of time that can't be attributed to luck. At that point, the party's over. Happened to me at one place.

 

[Knox]

If it is not a place you would ever want a free room from then don't get rated. But then again, you might stand out if you play there a lot but don't get a card. Better to get the card and then pocket chips as you play.

 

[ihate17]

Depends

Do you think you should be rated if you are an advantage player?

In Vegas, there are a couple of casinos where I get fully comped. I am rated at these places, consider myself an excellent ratholer of chips, spread less aggresively at these casinos, and they are the only places where I play a little VP. Basically, I try to make some money at these places, get some comps and keep the door open. I keep good enough records and know that my ratholing has done a good job. According to the win/loss statement I received from one of these casinos for 2006, I was a net loser, not much but a loser, where in fact I had won over $70 per hour there for the year. Pocketing 3 green chips per hour is not hard.

At other places, I play either rated under a different name for things like food comps or just to keep the suspicion of "why does he not want a card" away, or play unrated. At these places, my spread and play is aggressive and I do not camp out.

ihate17

 

[shadroch]

A walk thru any slot bank will get you a players card whose owner forgot it in a machine.You can present it as your own and presto-you are being rated.At the end of a long session,ask and see if you've earned enough for a food comp.

 

[21forme]

A walk thru any slot bank will get you a players card whose owner forgot it in a machine.You can present it as your own and presto-you are being rated.At the end of a long session,ask and see if you've earned enough for a food comp.

Most places I go also ask for ID when you present a card for comps - even for free parking worth $5!

 

[moo321]

Losing a few bucks into the penny slots can be a life-saver at a local casino.

 

[shadroch]

Most places I go also ask for ID when you present a card for comps - even for free parking worth $5!

I don't know where you play,but if you get the pitboss to write you out a comp,it should have no name on it and is as good as cash.

 

[21forme]

I don't know where you play,but if you get the pitboss to write you out a comp,it should have no name on it and is as good as cash.

AC.

From my experience, 99% of comps are tied directly to the players card and the points in the account. It's rare to get a PB to write a comp unless you're bitching about something that went wrong.

 

[ihate17]

Corporate joints

I don't know where you play,but if you get the pitboss to write you out a comp,it should have no name on it and is as good as cash.

You can still get that dinner comp from the pit but it is getting harder as time passes. More and more, the pit has lost this comp power, especially at the big places and at places that have bought complete control system software that ties all comp amounts into a players card. Still even at these places sometimes the pit does have some comp power but might not want to bother and tell you it is handled through the players club or whatever.

ihate17

 

[ihate17]

oops, I must have picked up the wrong card!

A walk thru any slot bank will get you a players card whose owner forgot it in a machine.You can present it as your own and presto-you are being rated.At the end of a long session,ask and see if you've earned enough for a food comp.

I suggest that if you do pick up a players card left at a slot machine you pick one left at a penny or nickel slot.
A while back in Vegas, I picked up someone's card and sat down at a blackjack game. Playing perhaps 40 minutes or so, a guy with a name tag that said he was an executive host came up to me and asked me if I had just sat down. He then said that they must have the wrong card in as he was Mr X's host, Mr X only played machines and I was not Mr X. Told him I had been playing a machine earlier and must have taken the wrong card out and then he offered to get me a new card. A quick never mind, I had to go now and out the door, coming back on a different shift to cash out. Figure, most penny slot players might not have a host who wants to come by and say hi.

ihate17

 

[shadroch]

I suggest that if you do pick up a players card left at a slot machine you pick one left at a penny or nickel slot.
A while back in Vegas, I picked up someone's card and sat down at a blackjack game. Playing perhaps 40 minutes or so, a guy with a name tag that said he was an executive host came up to me and asked me if I had just sat down. He then said that they must have the wrong card in as he was Mr X's host, Mr X only played machines and I was not Mr X. Told him I had been playing a machine earlier and must have taken the wrong card out and then he offered to get me a new card. A quick never mind, I had to go now and out the door, coming back on a different shift to cash out. Figure, most penny slot players might not have a host who wants to come by and say hi.

ihate17

I've worried about that scenerio happening.I once hunted down a platinum card at the Rio in order to skip the hours long lines,only to find out from the cashier that "the rest of my party " had just entered.