Resplitting Aces

[PDBowden]

Do any casinos in Vegas allow the re-splitting of Aces?

 

[ihate17]

6 deck shoes

Do any casinos in Vegas allow the re-splitting of Aces?

I believe nearly all the MGM casinos allow RSA on their 6 deck shoes along with Wynn, Venetian and several others.

 

[StudiodeKadent]

I believe nearly all the MGM casinos allow RSA on their 6 deck shoes along with Wynn, Venetian and several others.

What are the table minimums (usually) for these games? I'd assume these are the 6-deck, DAS, Late Surrender, Resplit Aces, Double Any First Two card tables? (i.e. what I would consider reasonable rules)

Just I'll be studying in the US and on my occasional weekend trips to Vegas, I'd want to know how much they will demand per game.

 

[ihate17]

They have your reasonable rules

What are the table minimums (usually) for these games? I'd assume these are the 6-deck, DAS, Late Surrender, Resplit Aces, Double Any First Two card tables? (i.e. what I would consider reasonable rules)

Just I'll be studying in the US and on my occasional weekend trips to Vegas, I'd want to know how much they will demand per game.

These games are found for $10 and up (sometimes as low as $5 when slow) at MGM, Mandalay Bay, Monte Carlo, Luxor, and a few others on the strip.

Once you can play $25 or higher you can get these rules plus the dealer staying on soft 17 at Mandalay Bay, MGM, Mirage, Monte Carlo, Trop (but no resplit aces). Often Belaggio, Wynn, TI, and Venetian will also have this game but the minimums may be higher depending upon how busy they are.

Finally, for about $12 you can order the current copy CBJN (Current Blackjack News) from bj21.com It will give you a breakdown of rules, pen, and some very important other factors for every blackjack game in the U.S. and Canada.

ihate17

 

[StudiodeKadent]

These games are found for $10 and up (sometimes as low as $5 when slow) at MGM, Mandalay Bay, Monte Carlo, Luxor, and a few others on the strip.

Once you can play $25 or higher you can get these rules plus the dealer staying on soft 17 at Mandalay Bay, MGM, Mirage, Monte Carlo, Trop (but no resplit aces). Often Belaggio, Wynn, TI, and Venetian will also have this game but the minimums may be higher depending upon how busy they are.

Understand. Since I'd only really want to play a "stay on soft 17" game, I guess this means I'd have to pay US$25 per game and tend to gamble on off-peak times (and unfortunately I tend to enjoy the more upscale places, Wynn and Bellagio here I come).

Ironically that is roughly the same price per hand as the Cotai Strip. For similar, if not as lenient rules.

Finally, for about $12 you can order the current copy CBJN (Current Blackjack News) from bj21.com It will give you a breakdown of rules, pen, and some very important other factors for every blackjack game in the U.S. and Canada.

Thankyou very much for the advice. It's greatly appreciated.

 

[johndoe]

Understand. Since I'd only really want to play a "stay on soft 17" game, I guess this means I'd have to pay US$25 per game and tend to gamble on off-peak times...

Just one quick point, is that last time I was there the S17/$25 min was available all the time at most of these properties. (Mandalay, etc.) I don't think you necessarily need to be there only off-peak.

 

[callipygian]

Since I'd only really want to play a "stay on soft 17" game, I guess this means I'd have to pay US$25 per game and tend to gamble on off-peak times (and unfortunately I tend to enjoy the more upscale places, Wynn and Bellagio here I come).

Are you looking to play S17 games because they're better?

They are better on a per-dollar basis, but if they're more expensive, you might lose more money per time spent. Take two games that are otherwise equivalent, but one is $10/hand and H17, and the other $25/hand and S17.

The EV for the first game is -0.58%, or, at 100 hands/hr, an expected $5.80 loss per hour. The EV for the second game is -0.36%, but because of the higher limit, your expected loss per hour is $9.00.

If you have other reasons for wanting to play S17, just make sure they're legitimate reasons.

 

[StudiodeKadent]

Are you looking to play S17 games because they're better?

They are better on a per-dollar basis, but if they're more expensive, you might lose more money per time spent. Take two games that are otherwise equivalent, but one is $10/hand and H17, and the other $25/hand and S17.

The EV for the first game is -0.58%, or, at 100 hands/hr, an expected $5.80 loss per hour. The EV for the second game is -0.36%, but because of the higher limit, your expected loss per hour is $9.00.

If you have other reasons for wanting to play S17, just make sure they're legitimate reasons.

I get your point. In a situation where the only difference between the rules is S17 vs H17, and the minimums for S17 are $15 higher, I WOULD take the H17 table (especially if the H17 table used less decks). However, its good to know I won't have to pay silly money to get a 6D S17 DAS LS RSA table.