Short Decked?

[mpnuse]

I recently went on a trip where I visited about 4 different casinos. I am pretty new to counting and am playing small amounts right now until I become more confident in my betting strategies. I am, however, confident that my counting was very accurate. At one of the casinos I visited I played 3 shoes of 6 deck BJ with about 1 1/2 decks pen. In the first shoe the count skyrocketed, I got excited because I usually have to play a few shoes before I get a really good count. The problem was that the count never went down and the high count never paid off for me. By the time the cut card came the running count was about +26 with 1 1/2 decks left. I chalked it up to really bad luck and continued playing. The next shoe ended with a count of +18 and the next with +16. I was getting alot of doubles and splits but nothing was paying off. I finally decided to quit. I had thought about asking to see the remaining cards in the deck but decided not to because I am fairly new to counting and didn't want to expose myself. Also I was at a casino that I don't know very well and, without giving away it's location, it is somewhere I really don't want to have an incident. Does anybody think I was getting short decked? I jumped onto a table already being played so I don't think it was directed at me but does this happen very often?

 

[shadroch]

Where are we talking here? US? North America? Khazistan? How can you expect anyone to give anything more than the most general answer with the little you provided. If you were playing in an American casino regulated by a State, the chances you were shortdecked are small.

 

[creeping panther]

mp

I recently went on a trip where I visited about 4 different casinos. I am pretty new to counting and am playing small amounts right now until I become more confident in my betting strategies. I am, however, confident that my counting was very accurate. At one of the casinos I visited I played 3 shoes of 6 deck BJ with about 1 1/2 decks pen. In the first shoe the count skyrocketed, I got excited because I usually have to play a few shoes before I get a really good count. The problem was that the count never went down and the high count never paid off for me. By the time the cut card came the running count was about +26 with 1 1/2 decks left. I chalked it up to really bad luck and continued playing. The next shoe ended with a count of +18 and the next with +16. I was getting alot of doubles and splits but nothing was paying off. I finally decided to quit. I had thought about asking to see the remaining cards in the deck but decided not to because I am fairly new to counting and didn't want to expose myself. Also I was at a casino that I don't know very well and, without giving away it's location, it is somewhere I really don't want to have an incident. Does anybody think I was getting short decked? I jumped onto a table already being played so I don't think it was directed at me but does this happen very often?

I very recently had a 6d go that high, but lucky for me it was dealt to 10 cards and they did come out, :grin:

You were most likely not cheated, but what country were you in etc.

Welcome to the site.

CP

 

[StudiodeKadent]

To me, that looks like bad luck. Admittedly, its very unpleasant bad luck, and its rather extreme bad luck, but if the shoe is dealt down to 1.5 decks (i.e. 75% penetration), it's still plausible bad luck. If the casino is short-decking you, then its being pretty subtle and discreet about it.

Plus, you are new to counting and you only played a few shoes. Call it bad sampling, lick your wounds, then come back another day and you'll probably have better luck.

My sincere condolences however. Losing isn't fun.

 

[mpnuse]

The casino I was in was in the U.S. but not a major corporation. It was a small Indian casino. I live near a few of them and this was my first trip to this particular one. I just accepted the loss and don't know whether it was bad luck or cheating but I'm sure most people on this site don't play at small Indian casinos very often. I, however, would prefer to stay out of any conflict in these places, especially smaller ones.

 

[InPlay]

I recently went on a trip where I visited about 4 different casinos. I am pretty new to counting and am playing small amounts right now until I become more confident in my betting strategies. I am, however, confident that my counting was very accurate. At one of the casinos I visited I played 3 shoes of 6 deck BJ with about 1 1/2 decks pen. In the first shoe the count skyrocketed, I got excited because I usually have to play a few shoes before I get a really good count. The problem was that the count never went down and the high count never paid off for me. By the time the cut card came the running count was about +26 with 1 1/2 decks left. I chalked it up to really bad luck and continued playing. The next shoe ended with a count of +18 and the next with +16. I was getting alot of doubles and splits but nothing was paying off. I finally decided to quit. I had thought about asking to see the remaining cards in the deck but decided not to because I am fairly new to counting and didn't want to expose myself. Also I was at a casino that I don't know very well and, without giving away it's location, it is somewhere I really don't want to have an incident. Does anybody think I was getting short decked? I jumped onto a table already being played so I don't think it was directed at me but does this happen very often?

First chalk it up to bad luck. Second forget about conspiracy theories. Why is it every time something does not work out they believe they are getting cheated? What you are doing is called gambling, and it happens all the time so get accustomed to it. This is the real world not Hoyle.

 

[mjbballar23]

o god....this wasnt in wisconsin was it?

More than likely this was just bad luck but those are pretty ridiculous counts to end on. More importantly, what counting tags are you using? Starting an unbalanced count at 0 could give these results too...

 

[zengrifter]

Very possible to be short decked in a small obscure Indian joint.

But as soon as Mike Aponte teaches them about card counting they'll deal deeper. zg