Temporary PA BLackjack Rules Up For Review

[Zero]

If you like the state mandated blackjack rules in PA, you should take some time to let the PA GCB know. You know the casinos are going to push for rules more favorable to the house before the temporary rules become permanent in 2012. The 30 day public comment period ends September 18.

Time for players to speak out for state's good blackjack rules

Now is the time for Pennsylvania blackjack fans to make themselves heard.

They should speak out in favor of Pennsylvania's player-friendly rules and pre-empt any casino industry attempt to allow "options" that siphon more money from patrons.

Saturday is the first day of a 30-day public comment period on the state Gaming Control Board's proposal to make permanent several key blackjack rules

Tell gaming regulators you enjoy Pennsylvania's player-friendly blackjack rules, especially the requirements that players' blackjacks pay 3-to-2 and that the dealer stand on soft 17 (Ace-Six). A formal 30-day public comment period began today. Send comments to:
Susan A. Yocum
Assistant Chief Counsel
Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board
P.O. Box 69060
Harrisburg, PA 17106-9060
Fax: 717-703-2988
E-mail: [email protected]

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[HsiaoDi]

Anyone has any thought as to what would be some good convincing reasons for the gaming board to keep these rules? Can't be like because these rules can make me more moola...don't think that would fly.... if you read the article, sounds like they are going to bring dd to pa too... So think hard guys, these rules can be staying for a while ans benefit the whole community...
Can we also convince then to add some others? Like minimal pen of 75? Or follow the "real/original" rules for sp? csm is stupid because I can't see the cards, and I don't trust the machine? have to sounds like a regular joe

 

[Mr. Ed]

h17 is too complicated for anyone to understand - Sometimes they HIT 17 and sometimes they Stand 17. It's too complicated.

Same thing for 6:5 - way too complicated.
Also - It's not "fair": with an $8 bet, $9 payoff cheats the player, $10 payoff cheats the casino.


Next?

 

[Most Interesting Man]

A casino that is trying to argue for worse rules may be claiming a false economy that a higher house edge means more profits. The primary reason for good rules is to differentiate PA as the best blackjack in the country and maybe in the western hemisphere. If they can advertise PA as "best blackjack there is" they can greatly overcome a reduced per capita profit with increased volume. There's also a side benefit that increased number of visitors also means increased revenue for other businesses around and on the way to the casinos, meaning that the state gets more revenue from gaming and from tourist/travel businesses.

 

[zoomie]

Taxes and jobs

PA legalized table games for two reasons - taxes and jobs. That is the argument for keeping the rules - increasing the house edge will only drive tourists away, meaning fewer jobs and lower tax revenues. :whip::whip:

 

[Most Interesting Man]

Last time I went to PA it was to play blackjack. I also did some sightseeing. I'm sure I'm not the only one. Jobs for everyone, not just the casinos.

 

[Gamblor]

Last time I went to PA it was to play blackjack. I also did some sightseeing. I'm sure I'm not the only one. Jobs for everyone, not just the casinos.

Not only tourists, but players on the border states of NY, NJ, Maryland, etc., will tend to go to the state with the better rules.

Lets say I live halfway between AC and Philly. I'm a semi-knowledgeable ploppy (or the surrender crazy ploppy who thinks surrendering 6 v 5 is great). Which casino would I decide to go to?

 

[Marlin]

If you are looking for a outline here is what we sent:

Dear Ms Yocum

My wife and I have been coming to PA since the casinos opened in the Pittsburgh area in 2009 and have spent many a weekend sightseeing and staying at hotels in the downtown area. Its been thirty years since I had previously been to Pittsburgh and remember it as an old dirty steel town and someplace I certainly had no desire to return to until the casinos came to town.

Things have really improved tremendously in the last 30 years and Pittsburgh is a beautiful city area with many great things to see and do. We love to play Blackjack and find your rules very fair and we occasionally leave with some money, but for us it's great entertainment. A number of other casinos in the surrounding states of Indiana and Michigan that we used to frequent had less favorable rules and we find ourselves spending our tourism money in PA.

The casinos are making massive amounts of money and tax revenues for Pennsylvania and if you change those rules to make the game favor the casinos even more it will soon becomes less fun for the average person.

We only ask for a fair game and not to be taken advantage of when we go there. I hope that's not to much to ask otherwise we will be spending our retirement funds elsewhere.

Kind Regards

Take five minutes and send a letter.

Marlin

 

[MJBreeze]

The zip code on that address should be 17106-9060.

 

[tthree]

Anyone has any thought as to what would be some good convincing reasons for the gaming board to keep these rules? Can't be like because these rules can make me more moola...don't think that would fly.... if you read the article, sounds like they are going to bring dd to pa too... So think hard guys, these rules can be staying for a while ans benefit the whole community...
Can we also convince then to add some others? Like minimal pen of 75? Or follow the "real/original" rules for sp? csm is stupid because I can't see the cards, and I don't trust the machine? have to sounds like a regular joe

Tell them how nice you and all your friends find it to have good rules in Pa. You always go were the best overall deal is. You are the only blackjack player in the group so everyone usually goes were the best blackjack can be found as there is no difference in the other games that everyone else plays from destination to destination. Everyone used to go to New Jersey. Then everyone went to Delaware but now they all go to Pennsylvania. It is nice to not pay all the travel costs and time incurred going to Atlantic City. Delaware is so small there really is no difference between that and Pa other than the rules. Complement them on the nice venues and the friendly employees as well. They should see they will lose more than blackjack players to other states if they change their rules.

 

[Friendo]

For the sake of the children

Mention "families" and "children", while using "family" as an adjective. These are the most important words in American politics and advertising.

A restaurant can have a spotty health-department record, and serve vitamin-free crap, but if it claims to be a "family" restaurant with a children's menu, then only a wicked man would speak ill of it.

Talk about Pennsylvania as a family destination, and mention some local attractions your children enjoy there. The reasonable blackjack rules are a strong part of the package that brings your whole family, with its varied family interests, to Pennsylvania. Plus, your church group has made a couple of excursions there, and the congregation really appreciates the better rules available.

 

[Zero]

The zip code on that address should be 17106-9060.

Fixed. Thanks.

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[alwayssplitaces]

The profits for the PA casinos are increasing. It's fine the way it is. I'd love to see them allow double deck with the same rules.

The PA casinos attract mostly locals, unlike AC and Vegas. Locals would like to keep coming back, and if blackjack costs them less per visit, they'll keep coming back. If it costs them $10 an hour in the long run, they can visit once or twice a month for just a few hundred bucks in expected losses. $10 an hour is a good price for entertainment.

 

[Wookets]

Email sent. Hopefully some of you have done the same! I'd be excited if some nice DD games were added.

 

[blackriver]

Mention "families" and "children", while using "family" as an adjective. These are the most important words in American politics and advertising.

A restaurant can have a spotty health-department record, and serve vitamin-free crap, but if it claims to be a "family" restaurant with a children's menu, then only a wicked man would speak ill of it.

Talk about Pennsylvania as a family destination, and mention some local attractions your children enjoy there. The reasonable blackjack rules are a strong part of the package that brings your whole family, with its varied family interests, to Pennsylvania. Plus, your church group has made a couple of excursions there, and the congregation really appreciates the better rules available.

well played