When to quit session?

nottooshabby

nottooshabby

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Hello,

Just wanted some thoughts on when you guys know that it is your time to quit a session. There are some instances that I definitely know it's my time to go (eg. distracted, feeling ill, being in a foul mood, perceiving heat as examples). I will rarely exceed 4 hrs for any session and bring 50u with me to the table. I will leave, however, if that session's bankroll is exhausted, and not throw out more cash. :flame: Anyone else set strict time limits for their play? Some of my friends don't go for more than 90 minutes, and hold to that limit pretty rigidly. In terms of quitting as a winner, what are some general thoughts? I've read and heard things such as gaining 18-20u, earning 50% of that session's bankroll (25u), or even doubling that session's bankroll as examples. In some sessions I've gotten up fairly quickly (30-35 units within the first hour), then when things start to tank a little I just up and leave. A consistent, disciplined approach is what I want to achieve so I'm not left with the thought that maybe I left something on the table (pun intended). :) Thanks!

nottooshabby
 
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shadroch

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If you aren't counting or doing something to get an edge,you can leave anytime you want. If you are playing with any sort of advantage,you should keep your sessions short to avoid being found out.
Learn to forget about sessions. Every hand of BJ you play is just one long session. The cards have no idea if its your first hand or your hundred and sixty first. Nor do they know if you are down to your last bet or up a grand.
If they did know,they still wouldn't care. Neither should you.
 
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shadroch

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agc28 said:
well. if im obviously losing, there wouldn't be need to hold short sessions. hm?
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Thats ploppie logic. Are you spreading you bets according to the count?
The Eye in the Sky is watching you,win or lose.
 
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shadroch

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agc28 said:
it is?!

bad counters also generate good revenue for the casino.
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Your point being? If you are a bad counter,then you certainly want to keep your sessions short.
 
EasyRhino

EasyRhino

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nottooshabby said:
distracted, feeling ill, being in a foul mood, perceiving heat as examples
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Assuming you're counting competently, these are good reasons to pull a session short. Winning an amount that would seem to be annoying to the casino is another reason (and very store-specific).

Strict time limits can be a very good idea. A while ago I played at one place and used a "variable" time limit. I figured I wanted about one hour of actual play, but didn't know how much I'd end up away from the table. Turned out I found and empty table with a dealer who gave better than average pen, so I just stayed there. An hour later, looked at my watch, and it was time to go.
 
kewljason

kewljason

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agc28 said:
well. if im obviously losing, there wouldn't be need to hold short sessions. hm?
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I was backed off last week at El cortez after only 20 minutes and was down 55 units at the time. It was only the third time I've been backed off, as I play mostly on the east coast. But all three times I was losing when it happened, so losing is definately NOT cover.
 
ihate17

ihate17

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There can always be exceptions

Doofus said:
When to quit from a session?

After 45 minutes. No exceptions.
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I also play mostly 45 minutes at DD games, perhaps over an hour at 6D, but circumstances within each individual casino can make these sessions longer quite often. One recent situation was a high limit room table where even though spreading 15-1 on their shoe game I was, by far, the smallest player at a table where the pit was super busy brown-nozing the big bettors. Sure, the eye might have labeled me but that particular casinos general procedure is for the pit to call the eye and ask them to evaluate an individual player. Add to that, that though my win was impressive to me, the amount I won was probably just a few percent of what others appeared to be losing.
Once a index play really disturbed one of the whales, causing him to complain, I determined that it was time to go since attention had been now brought my way. Returned to the same casino with no obvious heat.

Another situation is where employees such as pits and dealers are loaded with complaints about management and might have a "screw them" attitude.

Not disagreing with you as much as saying that you should be flexible.
P.S. My judgement also has no always been correct, so I have also been backed off after extending a session.

ihate17
 
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InPlay

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shadroch said:
Thats ploppie logic. Are you spreading you bets according to the count?
The Eye in the Sky is watching you,win or lose.
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Everyhing is ploppie logic if its not according to AP logic ? Correct ?
 
Mimosine

Mimosine

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depends on the club and the game.

Playing a shoe game at a big club well below their table max, or even their "checks play" limit you can last a lot longer (hours) than spreading to green at a DD game at 899 Fremont St, Las Vegas, NV (minutes).
 
nottooshabby

nottooshabby

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Doofus said:
When to quit from a session?

After 45 minutes. No exceptions.
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Thanks much for sharing your opinions and stories guys! Doofus, given that your sessions are 45 minutes, how many sessions will you play a day?
 
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EyeHeartHalves

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Also,

it depends a whole hell of a lot on the city that you are in and often you intend to come back to that casino and/or that city.

For example, I will usually have longer sessions in an AC casino as opposed to a LV casino, depending on the casino. I typically don't care if I get backed off from a crappy little independent casino and as a matter of fact, those are usually where I receive more heat. However, I usually just chicken out and leave on my own accord after growing tired of the charade.

If I learned one thing from Rick Blaine (and there probably is only about one thing that I learned from Rick Blaine--your mileage may vary.), it's that sometimes, for some people in certain casinos, it is a good idea to just count your ass off until they just kick it out of there.

If a Las Vegas native was visiting me in NJ, I might suggest this to him if he doesn't plan on coming back here very often. But the opposite isn't true. I think I might want to frequent LV pretty often someday so I'm more careful when I'm out there and I've grown more careful here at home as well. One place I wouldn't be too careful is a place I may never return to such as Turning Stone in Syracuse, NY. I may just brutally assault them some day.

--Halves
 
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shadroch

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One place I wouldn't be too careful is a place I may never return to such as Turning Stone in Syracuse, NY. I may just brutally assault them some day.

--Halves[/QUOTE]

Or vice versa.
 
nottooshabby

nottooshabby

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sagefr0g, thanks much for the links. Pretty insightful stuff. :cool2: Halves, I've gone through my records and noticed that I tend to play considerably longer in A.C. as well, compared to Vegas and Reno. I'm based on the East coast, like you, about an hour from the shore. I attribute most (if not all) of this to playing mostly SD and DD out West, and shoe games in the East (do you do this too?) In the Caribbean I'll play considerably shorter sessions as well, but mostly because there's a heck of a lot of better ways to spend time down there! :) Thanks again.

nottooshabby
 
SleightOfHand

SleightOfHand

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shadroch said:
One place I wouldn't be too careful is a place I may never return to such as Turning Stone in Syracuse, NY. I may just brutally assault them some day.

Or vice versa.
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Is Turning Stone THAT bad? Ive only gone twice playing at the 8D (S17 DAS DOA) and made 20 us each time, but I may have been lucky. But I was doing a bit of wonging so that probably helped a lot.
 
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bjcount

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According to L. Revere, if you are up or down 30 units you should walk away. A 30 unit lose should not hurt you too badly. He probablly refered to SD & DD games.. If only I was so disciplined.

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