Why oh why? Explaination needed urgently . . .

[UK-21]

My most recent visit to the House of Chance resulted in a fairly profitable session - 27 units up after around 75 minutes of play.

But I'm desperate to know why whenever I have 6 or more units in the box, the dealer always seems to pull a 5 or 6 to their 16 or 15? It happens with monotonous regularity and is becoming tiresome. Over the last two sessions I've seen around two dozen units swept up as a result of a 19 or 20 being beaten in this way? Do I need to book a session with a marabout?

Ideas?

 

[Cherry7Up]

My most recent visit to the House of Chance resulted in a fairly profitable session - 27 units up after around 75 minutes of play.

But I'm desperate to know why whenever I have 6 or more units in the box, the dealer always seems to pull a 5 or 6 to their 16 or 15? It happens with monotonous regularity and is becoming tiresome. Over the last two sessions I've seen around two dozen units swept up as a result of a 19 or 20 being beaten in this way? Do I need to book a session with a marabout?

Ideas?

If you are up 27 units in 75 minutes, it may just be time to let those other units slide--sounds like a pretty good end outcome to me.

 

[ihate17]

stuff happens

My most recent visit to the House of Chance resulted in a fairly profitable session - 27 units up after around 75 minutes of play.

But I'm desperate to know why whenever I have 6 or more units in the box, the dealer always seems to pull a 5 or 6 to their 16 or 15? It happens with monotonous regularity and is becoming tiresome. Over the last two sessions I've seen around two dozen units swept up as a result of a 19 or 20 being beaten in this way? Do I need to book a session with a marabout?

Ideas?

Remember, in order to get up those 27 units you probably had a few hands where you drew out on the dealer also.
I know it appears that the dealer will draw out more often than you, but that is because you can stay on some of your stiffs but the dealer must hit all of their's.

ihate17

 

[1357111317]

I had a pretty good visit with the house of chance the other day as well. 100 units in 6 shoes. Gotta love that positive varience hey?

And regarding the dealer making hands all the time? You always remember when the dealers makes a hand but its expected when the dealer busts. In the long run it will even out

 

[itrack]

In the long run it will even out

hey, theres gotta be a few at the low end of the bell curve. ive just got my fingers crossed that it isn't me

 

[Katweezel]

5s and 6s

My most recent visit to the House of Chance resulted in a fairly profitable session - 27 units up after around 75 minutes of play.

But I'm desperate to know why whenever I have 6 or more units in the box, the dealer always seems to pull a 5 or 6 to their 16 or 15? It happens with monotonous regularity and is becoming tiresome. Over the last two sessions I've seen around two dozen units swept up as a result of a 19 or 20 being beaten in this way? Do I need to book a session with a marabout?

Ideas?

Newb, Interesting that you addressed your question not to the general board, but to the Voodoo. Do you want a voodoo explanation? :cat:

 

[FLASH1296]

Selective Memory

You are suffering from "selective memory"

The emotional effect upon you of the dealer "drawing out" makes it memorable.
When it is you who makes a good hand when hitting a "stiff" you do not later remember it.

Ask some random BJ players the following:
"Who gets more blackjacks? You or the Dealer?"
The obviously correct answer is that there is NO difference;
but I suspect that the majority of players will say that it
sure "SEEMS" that the dealer has more BJ's than they do.

 

[HarryKuntz]

You are suffering from "selective memory"

The emotional effect upon you of the dealer "drawing out" makes it memorable.
When it is you who makes a good hand when hitting a "stiff" you do not later remember it.

Ask some random BJ players the following:
"Who gets more blackjacks? You or the Dealer?"
The obviously correct answer is that there is NO difference;
but I suspect that the majority of players will say that it
sure "SEEMS" that the dealer has more BJ's than they do.

Agreed!

 

[Katweezel]

Select a memory

You are suffering from "selective memory"

The emotional effect upon you of the dealer "drawing out" makes it memorable.
When it is you who makes a good hand when hitting a "stiff" you do not later remember it.

Ask some random BJ players the following:
"Who gets more blackjacks? You or the Dealer?"
The obviously correct answer is that there is NO difference;
but I suspect that the majority of players will say that it
sure "SEEMS" that the dealer has more BJ's than they do.

Flash, My selective memory has no trouble recalling the time the dealer killed me stone dead with an epidemic plague of biblical proportions of: Dealer 21s off any and everything, beating my good hands over and over, especially when the count significantly favored me. Now I can let it go... Thank you. Will there be any charge for that?
I suggest you be retained by the management here to provide much-needed help for our psyches. Sometimes, for some unknown reasons, the emotions seem to rule the mind and stomp on logic/reason. Next, can you help us with some hints on how to control the emotional beast inside; then next week, you can start on my multiple personalities. I desire my regular WINNER to be always present and in control, OK? :cat:

 

[UK-21]

No, I don't have a selective memory. Just wanted comments on whether it's the same cosmic force at work that always results in toast landing butter side down when it's dropped.

Lighten up !

 

[HarryKuntz]

No, I don't have a selective memory. Just wanted comments on whether it's the same cosmic force at work that always results in toast landing butter side down when it's dropped.

Lighten up !

Maybe you don't have selective memory but flash is right, it's quite often the case with many people who moan about games being unfair and so on. Even though I had a profitable 2008, I can recall the big losing sessions easier than the winning ones. I guess it's just human nature.

 

[UK-21]

No, I managed it as well - on one occasion I hit my 15 against a dealer's 7 and pulled a six. Gain 1 unit. When the dealer did it (twice), loss of 6 and 4 units respectively. I think I need to find that elusive component that will change the sacred flow of the cards and stop this from happening.

 

[Katweezel]

Elusive component duly delivered

No, I managed it as well - on one occasion I hit my 15 against a dealer's 7 and pulled a six. Gain 1 unit. When the dealer did it (twice), loss of 6 and 4 units respectively. I think I need to find that elusive component that will change the sacred flow of the cards and stop this from happening.

Here is the missing component, Newb, just in the nick of time down here in Voodoo land. I waved my new cosmic force wand and now your dropped toast will always fall butter-up. I waggled it around a bit more and you are now entering a long period where your 6 and 4 units bets will be the ones scoring for you when you draw to a stiff, rather than miserable one-unit bets. There'll be no charge for that, mate. My pleasure. :cat:

 

[Slick Vic]

Humans tend to place more emotional investment in events that didn't turn out as planned rather than things turning out as expected. If the dealer busted on those 15s and 16s, you probably wouldn't give them a second thought because it's what you were expecting. By drawing to a 21, your mind was thrown a curveball. It's always easier to remember that time the dealer made a 7 card 21 when you had split Aces 4 times and each total was either 19 or 20- how could you lose? But you did lose, because it's never a done deal until the dealer plays his hand out.

It works both ways, too. I can guarantee that you'll remember the time you drew to 21 on 16 and beat the dealer's 20 better than the time you busted on that 16.

I don't disagree that it really sucks when those things happen, though. Some days it just seems like every time you have a great hand, the dealer manages to pull a 21 out of nowhere.

 

[UK-21]

Here is the missing component, Newb, just in the nick of time down here in Voodoo land. I waved my new cosmic force wand and now your dropped toast will always fall butter-up. I waggled it around a bit more and you are now entering a long period where your 6 and 4 units bets will be the ones scoring for you when you draw to a stiff, rather than miserable one-unit bets. There'll be no charge for that, mate. My pleasure. :cat:

Thanks for that. I'll let you know how it goes.

 

[blackchipjim]

butter side down

The logical explanation for the toast landing butter side down most of the time is physical differences. The butter side is heavier than the side not buttered thus causing the heavier side to land first. We all have selective memory myself included where we remember the bad streaks more often than the good ones. I remember having terrible streaks against asms but hand shuffled shoes I do better against, but that's selective memory. blackchipjim

 

[Katweezel]

Butter and toast

The logical explanation for the toast landing butter side down most of the time is physical differences. The butter side is heavier than the side not buttered thus causing the heavier side to land first. We all have selective memory myself included where we remember the bad streaks more often than the good ones. I remember having terrible streaks against asms but hand shuffled shoes I do better against, but that's selective memory. blackchipjim

BCJim, Your logical explanation for the toast landing butter side down doesn't cut any ice here mate. Have you forgotten this is Voodoo? I think your scientific explanations can be returned to where they belong: in the science lab, with all those scientists who have no idea of the difference between voodoo and... hoodoo. :cat:

 

[HarryKuntz]

What really confuses me about this whole issue is, if you butter your toast on both sides, which way up will it land?

 

[DonR]

What really confuses me about this whole issue is, if you butter your toast on both sides, which way up will it land?

The one with butter on. :grin:

 

[Katweezel]

Cholesterol and gambler's fallacy

What really confuses me about this whole issue is, if you butter your toast on both sides, which way up will it land?

Harry, there is always someone like you, isn't there. That is the reason why humans have come so far... The ability to ask those tough questions, without fear of being burned at the heretics' stake.

The scientists will probably try to tell us the toast will either land on its edge, (and stay on its edge) or it will favor the side with 0.0000000000000112 grams extra weight of butter on it. (They love pontificating about these important matters such as toast, instead of something that could actually help us here, such as the scientific weight-distribution of dice or a roulette ball.)

As for what voodoo would say: For one, I think this situation has very little to do with Gamblers' Fallacy, streaks, or how many dealer busts you saw in this shoe, so far. Furthermore, Voodoo says that in this day and age with burgeoning waistlines and porky necks, only a cholesterol-idiot would still be putting butter on his toast in the first place; (or a scientist.) :cat: