Wonging at Borgata?

#2
About equal

The late surrender rule is equivalent to 0.5 decks pen, and no the pen at Borgata is not 0.5 decks better than Foxwoods. Although Foxwoods pen is on the average better than Mohegan, at Mohegan usually you can find at the 6D tables a dealer cutting down to a deck or so. (Hint: avoid Asian female dealers, think American.) When you do, start camping, because you're at the best shoe game in the continental US.

Being I live in CT there is no benefit for me to go to AC, unless I'm planning to do some advanced AP. In fact there is no reason for me to go anywhere else to play shoe. If I'm going to travel, it's going to be for SD or DD.
 

Jay Lee

Active Member
#3
about equal

What are you doing Sat. morning? I am going to be at Foxwoods if you have time maybe we can team up. I have a dealer there that will draw and tell me the card. The last time I saw him he was dealing Spanish 21 so I don't know if he'll be dealing bj. And I have a floor supervisor that will count for me. Shhh.
 

Sonny

Well-Known Member
#5
It's up to you, man.

> How about you Sonny do you have an opinion?

Have you ever known me not to? =)

Sure, why not? Normally I am very hesitant to meet with unknown "newbies" in a casino, but I think Jay has a lot of questions and would really appreciate some guidance. You could always set up a meeting at the Carnegie Deli. I would prefer to meet new people in neutral locations (without the eye-in-the-sky photographing us), but that's up to you. After all, you have no idea who this guy (gal?) is. Maybe he is a casino employee, or a con man who knows that you have several $k in your pocket. Maybe he is a really nice guy who can be your BP. Who knows?

Talking with you would be the equivalent of reading numerous books and having years of table experience condensed into an hour. That would be one heck of a jump-start for his blackjack career...or it may be enough to scare him away from our beloved sport. Either way it would save him months of research and money.

After talking with him for a while you will have a pretty good idea of what his expectations of card counting are. And, of course, if things don't work out you can always cut things short and hit the tables. Just don't let him drag you near the baccarat tables!

-Sonny-
 
#7
Criminal activity?

I have a dealer there that will draw and tell me the card.

Do you mean the dealer deliberately tells you his hole card and/or the next card from the shoe? I hope I am misunderstanding you. If not, you are putting yourslef in serious jeopardy from this casino employee-criminal. Collusion is a felony in most gaming jurisdictions. Please clarify, thanks.
 
#11
Too late. Jay Lee has confirmed that the dealer is a criminal

Jay Lee, do not walk away from this dealer. RUN AWAY AS FAST AS YOU CAN. You could be looking at some serious prison time. This crooked situation is a time bomb waiting to explode. You don't want to be anywhere near it when it happens. There are many honest, legal ways to beat casainos. We don't have to become criminals to take their money.
 
#12
What a crock of crap

Foxwoods has electronic peekers and they always have. Along with bet capping the kind of collusion you're describing is the thing a store like that is watching for more than anything and it's unlikely you would get away with it for even one session. Instead of this BS you are selling, why don't you heed some advice and learn solid advantage play and maybe you can make some money there. Just stay far away from me if you are going to bring cheat heat on the table.
 
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