World's Greatest Blackjack Book indice question

gothic

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In a game with the rules/conditions: SD H17 NDAS NS, the World's Greatest Blackjack Book tells me that at a TC >= 2, I split 6,6, even though I would anyways at a TC = 0; I realized that the index number was given off a table for a 4d game, but when I checked for the index variations per rule/deck number, splitting 6,6 was not changed or addressed anywhere I could find, seeming to mean that the play would work regardless, as others do when no variation is provided (and i looked several times). The others I've checked out seem alright so far, but this one just had my head feeling fuzzy. Any explanation? Thanks for the guidance :grin:

Gothic
 

tthree

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gothic said:
In a game with the rules/conditions: SD H17 NDAS NS, the World's Greatest Blackjack Book tells me that at a TC >= 2, I split 6,6, even though I would anyways at a TC = 0; I realized that the index number was given off a table for a 4d game, but when I checked for the index variations per rule/deck number, splitting 6,6 was not changed or addressed anywhere I could find, seeming to mean that the play would work regardless, as others do when no variation is provided (and i looked several times). The others I've checked out seem alright so far, but this one just had my head feeling fuzzy. Any explanation? Thanks for the guidance :grin:

Gothic
It is because you can't double your splits. When you play a game with DAS you are hoping to be able to double when you split. Without DAS you are splitting based solely on the weakness of the dealer's upcard. Two is not that weak of a card and your hands after splitting would start as a 6. Since you either stand or split given the indices the match up breaks down like this. With dealer key cards of 7, 8 and 9 for making a strong hand the count is a weak indicator for that half of the process. On the dealer bust side you need a face card for a dealer bust in one card making an ace neutral like HIOPT I a much stronger indicator than an ace reckoned count. The weaker your index is at indicating the composition of the cards the more cautious you should be about getting more money on the table. Since you use HIOPT I, I would go with the index while favoring standing on a coin flip unless you have some information on how 8 or 9 rich the remaining deck is. If you haven't seen any eights or nines played hitting might be the best play. Having a sense of how rich/poor the remaining cards to be played are for those neutral cards can be very useful for single deck games.

NOTE: This post is assuming the dealer upcard is 2 based on the index mentioned for splitting being 2.
 
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tthree

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Sucker said:
Not enough information. Please edit your post to indicate the dealer's up card.
Upcard is 2 for that index. My post assumed an upcard of 2.
 
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gothic

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yes

The dealer's upcard is a 2, and the player has 6,6. It says I need to have a count of 2 or higher to split, but BS says split anyways :confused:

Edit: My fault, I completely forgot the upcard info in the first post. Kinda important, huh?
 
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