Holy Rollers: The True Story of Card Counting Christians

  • Dyepaintball12

    Holy Rollers: The True Story of Card Counting Christians

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1780862/

    I saw this at a local Film Festival yesterday night and it is awesome! A well-made film that really goes into team dynamics and the issues with trusting others!

    It was actually made by these kids:

    http://www.blackjackapprenticeship.com/

    I guess since they are literally banned everywhere they decided it’d be fun to charge $1,000 to teach people to count!

  • moo321

     

    Why didn’t Aslan and I get in with these guys?

  • zengrifter

     

    Holy Rollers follows the rise of arguably the largest and most well-funded blackjack team in America-made up entirely of churchgoing Christians. While they succeed in taking millions from casinos, how will they manage to find a place for faith and God in the arena of high stakes gambling?

    Watch trailer –

  • Grant2600

     

    Is this film currently showing at cinema? I cant find it anywhere online, just the trailer.

  • CasinoExaminer

     

    Quote: Dyepaintball12 said:
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1780862/

    I saw this at a local Film Festival yesterday night and it is awesome! A well-made film that really goes into team dynamics and the issues with trusting others!

    It was actually made by these kids:

    http://www.blackjackapprenticeship.com/

    I guess since they are literally banned everywhere they decided it’d be fun to charge $1,000 to teach people to count!

    I get spammed all the time by these Blackjack Apprenticeship boys. Now they are using Christianity to profit off card counting. I find it disgusting!

  • Dyepaintball12

     

    Quote: Grant2600 said:
    Is this film currently showing at cinema? I cant find it anywhere online, just the trailer.

    It definitely isn’t playing in any major theaters – mostly just film festivals from what I understand.

  • aslan

     

    Quote: moo321 said:
    Why didn’t Aslan and I get in with these guys?

    I didn’t know anything about them until recently.

  • zengrifter

     

    Quote: CasinoExaminer said:
    I get spammed all the time by these Blackjack Apprenticeship boys. Now they are using Christianity to profit off card counting. I find it disgusting!

    You ask me why it is that I count cards? For the greater glory of God! zg

  • aslan

     

    Quote: CasinoExaminer said:
    I get spammed all the time by these Blackjack Apprenticeship boys. Now they are using Christianity to profit off card counting. I find it disgusting!

    What am I missing? How is anyone using Christianity to profit off card counting?

  • Low Ball Cap Real Low LOW

    xtianity

    common religion was a real good recruitment factor for the comrades. these were good-souled gents among whom trust issues all but disappeared.

  • aslan

     

    Quote: Low Ball Cap Real Low LOW said:
    common religion was a real good recruitment factor for the comrades. these were good-souled gents among whom trust issues all but disappeared.

    I was thinking that one difference might be that they would “feel” it easier to trust on another than those among the general population. However, for me there would still be the “wolf in sheep’s clothing” factor to deal with. Call me paranoid. lol

  • KenSmith

     

    Interesting that this thread has taken that particular turn, as that is one of the principal story lines of the film. I recently viewed it, and highly recommend it. Hopefully it will be available on DVD soon.

  • zengrifter

     

    Frankly, I feel that this entire thread flirts dangerously with the subject of religion. zg

  • tthree

     

    LIke they say ZG, “God knows”.

  • aslan

     

    Quote: zengrifter said:
    Frankly, I feel that this entire thread flirts dangerously with the subject of religion. zg

    Religion touches every facet of life. That’s why we can’t talk about it. Can’t you see what would happen if we brought God into everything?

    Men despise religion. They hate it and are afraid it may be true. –Blaise Pascal

  • Dyepaintball12

     

    Yeah basically trust played a huge part in why they only used Christians. A very interesting and at one point shocking (to me) part of the film.

  • zengrifter

     

    Quote: Dyepaintball12 said:
    Yeah basically trust played a huge part in why they only used Christians. A very interesting and at one point shocking (to me) part of the film.

    The last time I did a serious business deal with bible-thumping Christians, I finally figured out that they were screwing me – I confronted the senior principal
    and told him my revelation: “You guys are f**king me,” to which he raised his hand, gesturing to the sky above and proclaimed: “Its not I who doeth the works.”

    True story. zg

    Ps – They never did trust me, because I was “not saved”

  • PierceNation

     

    Quote: zengrifter said:
    The last time I did a serious business deal with bible-thumping Christians, I finally figured out that they were screwing me – I confronted the senior principal
    and told him my revelation: “You guys are f**king me,” to which he raised his hand, gesturing to the sky above and proclaimed: “Its not I who doeth the works.”

    True story. zg

    Ps – They never did trust me, because I was “not saved”

    You should of smashed his back windscreen in with a baseball bat and quoted

    ‘God works in mysterious ways’

  • Colin

     

    Hey guys. This is Colin from BlackjackApprenticeship.com. I thought I’d clarify a couple things.

    1. We definitely don’t try to “Spam” people. If people have signed up for our email list, then they receive our emails (blogposts or news updates). If you’re receiving them and don’t want them, it’s really easy to unsubscribe.

    2. Our goal has never been to profit off of our faith. We’ve debated for over a year whether we should use BJA as a sounding board for the questions people have started asking us, now that details of our lives are becoming more public thru the documentary. The way we’ve always lived, run our businesses, etc is to be very open. Not to prosthelytize, but because it’s how we are. We could have 2 websites, one where we ban discussions about how we live our lives, what we believe, etc and keep it to blackjack, the other where we talk about personal stuff. But that sounded silly. But the goal is definitely not to leverage our faith for profit.

    Anyway, I’m glad to hear Ken enjoyed the doc! I remember watching “The Hot Shoe” and any other card counting video I could find 8 years ago. We hope, even aside from the faith stuff, this documentary will stand on its own as a valuable addition to the blackjack community that we’ve valued so much over the years.

    Cheers.

  • Coyote

     

    Quote: Colin said:
    Hey guys. This is Colin from BlackjackApprenticeship.com. I thought I’d clarify a couple things.

    1. We definitely don’t try to “Spam” people. If people have signed up for our email list, then they receive our emails (blogposts or news updates). If you’re receiving them and don’t want them, it’s really easy to unsubscribe.

    2. Our goal has never been to profit off of our faith. We’ve debated for over a year whether we should use BJA as a sounding board for the questions people have started asking us, now that details of our lives are becoming more public thru the documentary. The way we’ve always lived, run our businesses, etc is to be very open. Not to prosthelytize, but because it’s how we are. We could have 2 websites, one where we ban discussions about how we live our lives, what we believe, etc and keep it to blackjack, the other where we talk about personal stuff. But that sounded silly. But the goal is definitely not to leverage our faith for profit.

    Anyway, I’m glad to hear Ken enjoyed the doc! I remember watching “The Hot Shoe” and any other card counting video I could find 8 years ago. We hope, even aside from the faith stuff, this documentary will stand on its own as a valuable addition to the blackjack community that we’ve valued so much over the years.

    Cheers.

    Best of Success to you and your documentary!
    I’ve enjoyed the tales from the trenches!

    Regards,
    Coyote

  • Dyepaintball12

     

    Quote: Colin said:
    Hey guys. This is Colin from BlackjackApprenticeship.com. I thought I’d clarify a couple things.

    1. We definitely don’t try to “Spam” people. If people have signed up for our email list, then they receive our emails (blogposts or news updates). If you’re receiving them and don’t want them, it’s really easy to unsubscribe.

    2. Our goal has never been to profit off of our faith. We’ve debated for over a year whether we should use BJA as a sounding board for the questions people have started asking us, now that details of our lives are becoming more public thru the documentary. The way we’ve always lived, run our businesses, etc is to be very open. Not to prosthelytize, but because it’s how we are. We could have 2 websites, one where we ban discussions about how we live our lives, what we believe, etc and keep it to blackjack, the other where we talk about personal stuff. But that sounded silly. But the goal is definitely not to leverage our faith for profit.

    Anyway, I’m glad to hear Ken enjoyed the doc! I remember watching “The Hot Shoe” and any other card counting video I could find 8 years ago. We hope, even aside from the faith stuff, this documentary will stand on its own as a valuable addition to the blackjack community that we’ve valued so much over the years.

    Cheers.

    You’re charging people thousands of dollars for something they could easily learn themselves…

  • Kinetic

     

    Quote: Dyepaintball12 said:
    You’re charging people thousands of dollars for something they could easily learn themselves…

    The internet is an amazing source of information and yes, counting cards can be learned for free. This correlation can be made across all kinds of information. The problem with the internet is that it is also a source for misinformation. In the grand scheme of things, paying money to learn how to make money and cut through all the trial and error costly mistakes along the way, seems worth it to me.

    They aren’t guilting people into taking their course, nor are they offering something you can easily obtain online. People find value in different things, who are we to decide for others what is valuable or not?

  • moo321

     

    Quote: Colin said:
    Hey guys. This is Colin from BlackjackApprenticeship.com. I thought I’d clarify a couple things.

    1. We definitely don’t try to “Spam” people. If people have signed up for our email list, then they receive our emails (blogposts or news updates). If you’re receiving them and don’t want them, it’s really easy to unsubscribe.

    2. Our goal has never been to profit off of our faith. We’ve debated for over a year whether we should use BJA as a sounding board for the questions people have started asking us, now that details of our lives are becoming more public thru the documentary. The way we’ve always lived, run our businesses, etc is to be very open. Not to prosthelytize, but because it’s how we are. We could have 2 websites, one where we ban discussions about how we live our lives, what we believe, etc and keep it to blackjack, the other where we talk about personal stuff. But that sounded silly. But the goal is definitely not to leverage our faith for profit.

    Anyway, I’m glad to hear Ken enjoyed the doc! I remember watching “The Hot Shoe” and any other card counting video I could find 8 years ago. We hope, even aside from the faith stuff, this documentary will stand on its own as a valuable addition to the blackjack community that we’ve valued so much over the years.

    Cheers.

    Do you have any ideas as to when the movie will be available? I’m in the midwest, so please try to get something set up here!

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