Are there any major players out there who would help push my betting system book?

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tthree said:
The cost of always hitting a 16 v 6 is 25% for that hand match up and 0.15% for the game in general. The cost of never doubling or splitting is 1.91%. We know this. You come here and say I got this great system. All you have to do is play with a house edge of 2.56% instead of 0.5% and bet a lot more money and you will clean up. That is the math for the math genius. If you care to tell me how that works out to anything but a train wreck I am all ears.
Hey, that's another reason I'm here too. Because if I can get better blackjack skills AND use my technique, that's even a higher chance of winning :) I'm all ears to any other advice as well. Thank you.
 
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Also, I am very interested in playing $.10 hands online, however I cannot bring myself to trust a deck that I cannot physically see! If anybody has any recommendations of LEGITIMATE sites, I might try it, but all my testing and winnings have came from 5-500 bet 3-2 bj stand on soft 17 tables. I have only crunched the numbers of my progression, not the game itself! I am very open to any other BJ tips, which I may learn from these forums :)

As for why don't I write the book myself, it's a lot more trouble. I am the vice president of a web design company, so my SEO skills are good and could help. But I am responsible for many things these days. As for why don't I keep making money with blackjack -- I AM!!! But writing a book would allow others to win also, and make me a lot more money that way. Plus, I need help with the game itself, which would allow me to write a more accurate book. I do agree with some of the other posting here about that.
 
#23
NumberCruncher said:
Hey, that's another reason I'm here too. Because if I can get better blackjack skills AND use my technique, that's even a higher chance of winning :) I'm all ears to any other advice as well. Thank you.
If you are so inclined as to play your system till you have the huge downswing that comes with your sort of system when the frequency of your top bet is way above expectation and its lose percentage is way above expectation I will give you some advice. Before that I want to say that these types of systems show large profit until they totally collapse leaving you an overall loser. Get out before that happens and use your profits to bankroll a career as a counter. Buy some books that break down the math of the game. I suggest The Theory Of Blackjack by Peter Griffin or the revised and expanded edition of Blackjack Attack by Don Schlesinger for a deeper look into the same information.

Learn a counting system with as high a playing efficiency as you can. This is because betting correlation means nothing to you if you follow your system. Play with as few decks as you can once you learn the counting system and its playing indices for the important hand match ups. In shoe games most of the advantage a player gains is from betting correlation, useless to your system. In games with 1 or 2 decks most of the advantage gained by a counting system is by the way you alter your play for various hand match ups as the deck composition (count) changes, very useful for your system. This results in a higher win rate per hand and shorter losing streaks. Once you feel proficient at counting I would change to a system that modifies bets based on player advantage, betting correlation, before you lose back what you have managed to accumulate playing with a long term expected loss. It is a house of cards , it will collapse so fast you will regret it if you don't heed the warnings. That is the ONLY mathematically valid way to gain an edge over the casino in blackjack if the rules have you start at a disadvantage.
 

21gunsalute

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#24
NumberCruncher said:
Also, as a reminder, this is not a debate/troll thread. If you are looking to troll (bring unwanted negativity to my thread) you are in the wrong place. Thanks!
You sir are the troll. You are also a liar, liar pants on fire. You obviously don't even know Basic Strategy, and your so-called strategy is an absolute joke that flies in the face of proven conventional wisdom. I'm sure your "system" is no better than the strategy you've given us. Go crawl back under your bridge and don't come back until you have a real understanding of how to play the game..unless you really want to learn how to play the game and use systems that have been proven to work. Then, by all means feel welcome to stay and learn, but don't try feeding us or selling us anymore BS! Capice?
 
#25
NumberCruncher said:
Hey, that's another reason I'm here too. Because if I can get better blackjack skills AND use my technique, that's even a higher chance of winning :) I'm all ears to any other advice as well. Thank you.
Learn basic strategy.
PM me, I am the best "pro" to help you here, since I am also a marketing, writing, biz-development, and Wordpress SEO pro (like yourself). zg
 

21gunsalute

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#26
NumberCruncher said:
I have one question -- if this topic is not a discussion or a debate, and you are not interested personally, why are you here, still posting, still contributing negativity? In fact, don't answer that -- just leave. But to inform you, this strategy could work for any game where you have a decent win chance and can set your own bet. REAL investors don't care about my ****ing blackjack skill, they see something that can sell and make THEM money. People that are ignoring the fact that I have something of value, and instead judging me based on my blackjack skill, are NOT the people I want to communicate with. =)
No discussion? No debate? That not only makes you a troll, it makes you a spammer! Care to try for politician?
 
#27
tthree said:
If you are so inclined as to play your system till you have the huge downswing that comes with your sort of system when the frequency of your top bet is way above expectation and its lose percentage is way above expectation I will give you some advice. Before that I want to say that these types of systems show large profit until they totally collapse leaving you an overall loser. Get out before that happens and use your profits to bankroll a career as a counter. Buy some books that break down the math of the game. I suggest The Theory Of Blackjack by Peter Griffin or the revised and expanded edition of Blackjack Attack by Don Schlesinger for a deeper look into the same information.

Learn a counting system with as high a playing efficiency as you can. This is because betting correlation means nothing to you if you follow your system. Play with as few decks as you can once you learn the counting system and its playing indices for the important hand match ups. In shoe games most of the advantage a player gains is from betting correlation, useless to your system. In games with 1 or 2 decks most of the advantage gained by a counting system is by the way you alter your play for various hand match ups as the deck composition (count) changes, very useful for your system. This results in a higher win rate per hand and shorter losing streaks. Once you feel proficient at counting I would change to a system that modifies bets based on player advantage, betting correlation, before you lose back what you have managed to accumulate playing with a long term expected loss. It is a house of cards , it will collapse so fast you will regret it if you don't heed the warnings. That is the ONLY mathematically valid way to gain an edge over the casino in blackjack if the rules have you start at a disadvantage.
Yes that is the flaw of the martingale system -- and my system removes that flaw :)
 
#28
21gunsalute said:
No discussion? No debate? That not only makes you a troll, it makes you a spammer! Care to try for politician?

Hi, it's currently forever ago, and my name is Bill Gates. I just developed an entire computer platform, that tons of people have already said they want to buy, theres potential millions involved, but I need a little help. I'm going to post my entire source code somewhere for potentially millions of people to read!
 
#29
21gunsalute said:
You sir are the troll. You are also a liar, liar pants on fire. You obviously don't even know Basic Strategy, and your so-called strategy is an absolute joke that flies in the face of proven conventional wisdom. I'm sure your "system" is no better than the strategy you've given us. Go crawl back under your bridge and don't come back until you have a real understanding of how to play the game..unless you really want to learn how to play the game and use systems that have been proven to work. Then, by all means feel welcome to stay and learn, but don't try feeding us or selling us anymore BS! Capice?

No, sir, YOU are the troll. Look at your post again. Then look what I have kindly requested you SEVERAL times in this thread. Then look back at your post. Take a ****ing hint and leave. I've made my money already USING my strategy, and do NOT need your approval!
 

johndoe

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#30
It's been thoroughly established that *all* betting systems are net losers. This is a mathematically proven fact that cannot be debated. Don't waste anyone's time here with your nonsense, and I certainly hope no one here helps you promote your fraudulent, phony schemes.
 
#31
johndoe said:
It's been thoroughly established that *all* betting systems are net losers. This is a mathematically proven fact that cannot be debated. Don't waste anyone's time here with your nonsense, and I certainly hope no one here helps you promote your fraudulent, phony schemes.
Exactly. Most betting systems are fail. I've seen that by testing the numbers here. And that is exactly why I am willing to PAY to fly somebody to a casino, to watch me win money, and PROVE myself. So, if you aren't the person that wants to witness that, you are in the wrong thread.
 
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You are not going to get anyone here to believe your claims of a magical progression that wins without a mathematical advantage. We all know better. We don't buy from the snake oil salesman. We now the math of blackjack inside and out. If you really believe in your system, my advice will avert the collapse that math shows is coming. It is only a matter of when. Make your money off the book. You found ZG who will be glad to help you market it on people who don't know any better. That is the capitalist way. I am sure the two of you will turn a profit. I hope you take my advice to whatever degree you see fit. I wish you luck. You are going to need it.
 
#35
tthree said:
You are not going to get anyone here to believe your claims of a magical progression that wins without a mathematical advantage. We all know better. We don't buy from the snake oil salesman. We now the math of blackjack inside and out. If you really believe in your system, my advice will avert the collapse that math shows is coming. It is only a matter of when. Make your money off the book. You found ZG who will be glad to help you market it on people who don't know any better. That is the capitalist way. I am sure the two of you will turn a profit. I hope you take my advice to whatever degree you see fit. I wish you luck. You are going to need it.
Thanks bro! :) About time you offered some legitimate, non-sarcastic help to my thread! I knew you had it in you.
 
#36
Just to clarify, one more time, because i know the trolls here may have confused some of you:

before i make any false claims, or "offer snake oil" to anybody, i am 100% standing behind my strategy. I am **walking the walk*** by providing factual evidence. The person(s) who choose to join this collaboration will receive a complimentary flight to arizona, or i may come meet you. There will be a 12 hour session of blackjack at the casino(s) of your choice for me to demonstrate my technique in person.
 

tallmanvegas

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#37
I think you would need to share more of the fundamentals of your system to get everyones buy in, first, as there is lots of skepticism
Tallman
 

tallmanvegas

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#38
NumberCruncher said:
Just to clarify, one more time, because i know the trolls here may have confused some of you:

before i make any false claims, or "offer snake oil" to anybody, i am 100% standing behind my strategy. I am **walking the walk*** by providing factual evidence. The person(s) who choose to join this collaboration will receive a complimentary flight to arizona, or i may come meet you. There will be a 12 hour session of blackjack at the casino(s) of your choice for me to demonstrate my technique in person.
I appreciate your passion for your system, if it's a proven winner, I will be the first to buy your book
Tallman
 
#39
NumberCruncher said:
Exactly. Most betting systems are fail. I've seen that by testing the numbers here. And that is exactly why I am willing to PAY to fly somebody to a casino, to watch me win money, and PROVE myself. So, if you aren't the person that wants to witness that, you are in the wrong thread.
The system you describe will win the vast majority of the time. But when it loses it will lose more than all those wins. We know the scam. The odds of someone seeing your train wreck session is very small. So you take the gamble and hope the person doesn't know much about gambling and figures it is representative of the overall trend. Such a high variance approach to any game will impress the ignorant to the way betting schemes cause bankroll fluctuations. I love to play with fake money all these strategies to observe just how these bankroll fluctuations change with different betting progressions. I know what to expect from what you describe. If you want to see how your system fairs write a program that simulates the game of blackjack with out replacement of the used cards. You can play a hundreds thousand hands in no time. That would show what your system does in the long run not a trip to the casino with you.
 

21gunsalute

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#40
NumberCruncher said:
Just to clarify, one more time, because i know the trolls here may have confused some of you:

before i make any false claims, or "offer snake oil" to anybody, i am 100% standing behind my strategy. I am **walking the walk*** by providing factual evidence. The person(s) who choose to join this collaboration will receive a complimentary flight to arizona, or i may come meet you. There will be a 12 hour session of blackjack at the casino(s) of your choice for me to demonstrate my technique in person.
When all else fails, yell louder! Might always makes right in lieu of any factual evidence. Are you that desperate for companionship?
 
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