Are there any major players out there who would help push my betting system book?

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NumberCruncher

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21gunsalute said:
I'm not conning you out of anything, but you seem to be the one playing the con game here.
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In case you are STILL confused, after the SEVERAL clarifications in this post, I am going to outline everything here, in baby steps for you:

1. I am not asking or even ACCEPTING money.
2. Nothing is for sale.
3. I am offering a free flight to Arizona to watch me demonstrate my tactic.
4. I will be using MY money.
5. The people who are interested may choose the casino, tables, and length of time I will participate.
6. I have already received PMs from interested parties. At this time, I am currently declining you. Thank you.
 
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QFIT said:
Sorry, but this is a public forum. You are not allowed to tell people not to discuss your posts. Particularly when they are all trying to help you.
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If anybody with half a brain reads this post they can clearly see your intentions, and they don't seem to be helping, but I could be wrong. Now others, yes, I have received several PMs with some help, and to those helping -- thank you, and I cannot wait to put my money where my mouth is :)
 
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tthree

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You don't know my assumptions any more than I know your fine details. I have toyed with every system out there. You are not going to bring anything new to the table. I am a math nut. Playing with numbers is fun for me. Just like a sports nut might play tennis or baseball, or someone else might read a book; I play with equations and probabilities. I've been doing it for forty years. I have seen it all. Here is the math of what you propose:

House edge 2.56% from the few "improvements" you brag about (post 20). I am sure you have other "improvements".

Average return on all progressions combined:

total = -.0256*f1*b1 + -.0256*f2*b2 + -.0256*f3*b3 + ... + -.0256*fL*bL

where
f1 is the frequency of the time you make your first bet and
fL is the frequency of the time you make your last bet.
b1 is the amount of your first bet and
bL is the amount of your last bet.

Each individual addend is a negative number times 2 positive numbers which is a negative number. The sum of a string of negative numbers is an even bigger negative number. that is my assumption and I don't see how it could possibly be wrong.
 
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QFIT said:
Sorry, but this is a public forum. You are not allowed to tell people not to discuss your posts. Particularly when they are all trying to help you.
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The irony in this is that, a majority of your posts talk about card counting, a tactic that is frowned upon by casinos, however when it comes to something I frown upon, you do it with no holds barred. Talk about double standards. But seriously though, you aren't helping. I'm offering people the chance to see something amazing in person, and if you don't want that chance, fine. I'm not here to convince anybody. If you want to see me do it, come. If you don't, then don't. But don't sit here and tell me my PROVEN tactic, over 4 years, is shady, when you don't even know what I'm doing. Your assumptions are all incorrect, to be blunt.
 
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tthree said:
You don't know my assumptions any more than I know your fine details. I have toted with every system out there. You are not going to bring anything new to the table. I am a math nut. Playing with numbers is fun for me. Just like a sports nut might play tennis or baseball, or someone else might read a book; I play with equations and probabilities. I've been doing it for forty years. I have seen it all. here is the math of what you propose:

House edge 2.56% from the few "improvements" you brag about (post 20). I am sure you have other "improvements".

Average return on all progressions combined:

total = -.256*f1*b1 + -.0256*f2*b2 + -.0256*f3*b3 + ... + -.0256*fL*bL

where
f1 is the frequency of the time you make your first bet and
fL is the frequency of the time you make your last bet.
b1 is the amount of your first bet and
bL is the amount of your last bet.

Each individual addend is a negative number times 2 positive numbers which is a negative number. The sum of a string of negative numbers is an even bigger negative number.
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No. You are wrong. I am NOT talking about my blackjack skill here. I am talking about a progression pattern. THIS IS EXACTLY INCORRECT. WHAT THIS QUOTED POSTER HAS POSTED IS NOWHERE NEAR THE TECHNIQUE I AM USING.
 
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I've tried to keep it clean and civil here, as I do not like to brag about my accomplishments, but seriously you are kind of ticking me off. I've asked you kindly to not post here, and you cannot respect that. So, I am going to just come out and say it. Dude, I've made over 6 ****ing figures with this strategy, to the point where I invested into a web design company which I am now the VP of. I've made SO much money with this technique, over **4** years, that I am willing to FLY people TO ME and PAY FOR THEIR EXPENSES, just so they can witness this strategy, so people like you can learn to close their mouth.
 
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tthree

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tthree said:
You don't know my assumptions any more than I know your fine details. I have toyed with every system out there. You are not going to bring anything new to the table. I am a math nut. Playing with numbers is fun for me. Just like a sports nut might play tennis or baseball, or someone else might read a book; I play with equations and probabilities. I've been doing it for forty years. I have seen it all. Here is the math of what you propose:

House edge 2.56% from the few "improvements" you brag about (post 20). I am sure you have other "improvements".

Average return on all progressions combined:

total = -.0256*f1*b1 + -.0256*f2*b2 + -.0256*f3*b3 + ... + -.0256*fL*bL

where
f1 is the frequency of the time you make your first bet and
fL is the frequency of the time you make your last bet.
b1 is the amount of your first bet and
bL is the amount of your last bet.

Each individual addend is a negative number times 2 positive numbers which is a negative number. The sum of a string of negative numbers is an even bigger negative number. that is my assumption and I don't see how it could possibly be wrong.
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The above formula is the math for every system.
Total average return equals the sum of the house edge of each bet time the frequency each bet is made times the size of each bet. It is mathematical fact and the way you analyze any system. All that is needed to analyze your system is to put in the frequency for each bet (a positive decimal between 0 and 1) and the size of each bet (a positive number). The best house edge you would have is -0.0206 if the casino offered a zero house advantage game. How could you possibly say that isn't a mathematical analysis of your system?
 
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shadroch

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I'll bite. I'll fly to Vegas on your dime and meet up with you in Laughlin, Nevada. There are about a dozen casinos there that pretty much run the guantlet of possible rules you would encounter anywhere.
In return for the ticket and meals, you can explain your system and I will watch you play using your money.
I promise to do this completely unbiased and will report the success or lack of to the forum.
Fair enough?
 
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NumberCruncher said:
I've tried to keep it clean and civil here,
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You have done no such thing. You have called people trolls, idiots, without half a brain, etc.

NumberCruncher said:
The irony in this is that, a majority of your posts talk about card counting, a tactic that is frowned upon by casinos, however when it comes to something I frown upon, you do it with no holds barred. Talk about double standards....I'm not here to convince anybody.
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How is this a double standard? The casinos "frown" on card counting because it works. I frown on progression systems, beacuse it has been known for a century that they all fail. The proof has been provided over and over.

If you are not here to convince anbybody of anything, why do you continue to post the same nonsense, over and over? Clearly you are.
 
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tthree said:
The above formula is the math for every system.
Total average return equals the sum of the house edge of each bet time the frequency each bet is made times the size of each bet. It is mathematical fact and the way you analyze any system. All that is needed to analyze your system is to put in the frequency for each bet (a positive decimal between 0 and 1) and the size of each bet (a positive number). The best house edge you would have is -0.0206 if the casino offered a zero house advantage game. How could you possibly say that isn't a mathematical analysis of your system?
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I took this all into account several YEARS ago. In fact, when I first started, I was one of those "noobs" -- or wait, you'd use a much more harsh term, how about "idiots" -- that you speak of that came up with something like this and thought to myself "wow the casinos are going to hate me" until I realized that it DIDN'T work. So I thought outside the box and came up with a different strategy that has worked. If you want to see, come to Arizona man. If you're scared that I'm a complete stranger, bring a ****in body body guard, **** what you think I'm trying to plot some kind of crime over the internet. but don't expect a free ride out here unless you can bring something to the table. i'm a business man. and anybody who knows something others don't doesn't just give that **** out for free bro. i'm not here admitting im the best blackjack player -- in fact I'm NOT, I stated my skills are below average. but it's my pattern that gives me the win!
 
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QFIT said:
You have done no such thing. You have called people trolls, idiots, without half a brain, etc.



How is this a double standard? The casinos "frown" on card counting because it works. I frown on progression systems, beacuse it has been known for a century that they all fail. The proof has been provided over and over.

If you are not here to convince anbybody of anything, why do you continue to post the same nonsense, over and over? Clearly you are.
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again, i am not convincing anybody of my strategy over the internet. i am putting my money where my mouth is by giving people the opportunity to meet me and witness this in person. if you don't want to come, don't. bye.
 
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i have worked out 3 deals already. if you haven't PMed me with something to bring to the table, your proposal has not been considered. i am finished accepting new proposals, however if you feel you have something really good to bring forward, let me know. That's all folks. This thread may be closed and you will hear from me next time when some the proof has been made clear. Thank you all.
 
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all i have to say is, my progression betting is different than anything that's been posted in this entire thread. it's not even on google. it's outside the box, and as far as i know, nobody knows about it.
 
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NumberCruncher said:
i have worked out 3 deals already. if you haven't PMed me with something to bring to the table, your proposal has not been considered. i am finished accepting new proposals, however if you feel you have something really good to bring forward, let me know. That's all folks. This thread may be closed and you will hear from me next time when some the proof has been made clear. Thank you all.
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Looking forward to any results. I would not be able to bring much to the table. There are many more " professionals" here on this site than me. I'm just a high stakes "grind" bs player who looks to get his weekend paid for including shows and dinners as well as coming home with 4- 5 figures each time. Best of luck
Tallman
 
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tthree

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NumberCruncher said:
I took this all into account several YEARS ago. In fact, when I first started, I was one of those "noobs" -- or wait, you'd use a much more harsh term, how about "idiots" -- that you speak of that came up with something like this and thought to myself "wow the casinos are going to hate me" until I realized that it DIDN'T work. So I thought outside the box and came up with a different strategy that has worked. If you want to see, come to Arizona man. If you're scared that I'm a complete stranger, bring a ****in body body guard, **** what you think I'm trying to plot some kind of crime over the internet. but don't expect a free ride out here unless you can bring something to the table. i'm a business man. and anybody who knows something others don't doesn't just give that **** out for free bro. i'm not here admitting im the best blackjack player -- in fact I'm NOT, I stated my skills are below average. but it's my pattern that gives me the win!
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I understand, you found a spell that suspends mathematics and probability. That is why the math problem that analyzes every other system does not apply to yours. What are the magic words hocus pocus, abbracadabra or winsaysmee. You found no way that you are demonstrating that correlates higher bets to the shift of house edge unique to the game of blackjack. That is how you get the equation start to add to a positive number. It is the only way your system could in fact get a mathematical edge. If on the average each bet amount is made independent of this shift in house edge, it is made at whatever the edge for the game is as you play it the way you play each hand. Perfect basic strategy has you playing at the house edge posted for the game. You have posted deviations that give a much bigger edge to the house the way you play the game.
 
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tthree

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NumberCruncher said:
i have worked out 3 deals already. if you haven't PMed me with something to bring to the table, your proposal has not been considered. i am finished accepting new proposals, however if you feel you have something really good to bring forward, let me know. That's all folks. This thread may be closed and you will hear from me next time when some the proof has been made clear. Thank you all.
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Nothing like free travel RFB and a show. Now thats the only +EV you will see from his system. I suspect we will hear from your marks. I mean customers.
 
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21gunsalute

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NumberCruncher said:
In case you are STILL confused, after the SEVERAL clarifications in this post, I am going to outline everything here, in baby steps for you:

1. I am not asking or even ACCEPTING money.
2. Nothing is for sale.
3. I am offering a free flight to Arizona to watch me demonstrate my tactic.
4. I will be using MY money.
5. The people who are interested may choose the casino, tables, and length of time I will participate.
6. I have already received PMs from interested parties. At this time, I am currently declining you. Thank you.
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You are undoubtedly some kind of psychopath looking for easy prey. There is simply no other explanation.
 
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