'Dice Control' Denounced
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Yes I think you get the picture. If a beginner does well people want to say it is beginners luck. But that comes to sports and stuff like that. Being able to throw dice doesn't take feats of strength but requires a soft throw that will not make the dice bounce as much after hitting the table. But still you should practice on the line of keeping the dice on their axis. So then it doesn't matter if they bounce. You have to practice hitting them squarely so they do not like bounce off to the side but forward and backward off the wall. But takes practice, months of practice to get good where you know how to throw them so they hit squarely and not bounce off to the side but straight up and back down on the table. I am better and hope to get where I can pretty much get what I want. I can get the point numbers but I want to be able to get them sooner then I do. I can hit my hard numbers but want to hit them more often so if I bet on them I can win with a profit
That is mostly what I practice for. For making the point numbers. I practice others very little but I will practice on them all because I am in no hurry to get to the casinos so I will practice for awhile before I go. I want to be fully convinced that I will not loose my but. I want to know to myself I am good enough to win before betting and not even think twice about if I could win or not.
I wonder when English was first told on how to control the Cue ball if most put it off as a none believer.
I wonder the first person that said he could control the cue ball with something he called English if people said no way that can be done.
How in the world are you going make the cue ball go around balls on the table and hit the right ones that is surrounded by other balls?
I bet when it was first announced people was just as skeptic as Dice control.
I pretty much bet the was people heard about it then threw it off as none sense.
How about you all; you think it was just as unbelievable to somebody that first heard of putting English on a cue ball that they was an unbeliever?
I wonder the first person that said he could control the cue ball with something he called English if people said no way that can be done.
How in the world are you going make the cue ball go around balls on the table and hit the right ones that is surrounded by other balls?
I bet when it was first announced people was just as skeptic as Dice control.
I pretty much bet the was people heard about it then threw it off as none sense.
How about you all; you think it was just as unbelievable to somebody that first heard of putting English on a cue ball that they was an unbeliever?
iv been playing around with a couple dice from a poker chip set. Throwing them around and finally got them to stick together rotating on the same axis. It looked pretty sexy if i do say so. so dice control possible maybe? difficult yes!
going to try it a little more maybe if i can do it consistantly il test some results, don't count on this anytime soon.
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going to try it a little more maybe if i can do it consistantly il test some results, don't count on this anytime soon.
:cow:
la_dee_daa said:
iv been playing around with a couple dice from a poker chip set. Throwing them around and finally got them to stick together rotating on the same axis. It looked pretty sexy if i do say so. so dice control possible maybe? difficult yes!
going to try it a little more maybe if i can do it consistantly il test some results, don't count on this anytime soon.
:cow:
going to try it a little more maybe if i can do it consistantly il test some results, don't count on this anytime soon.
:cow:
.... a conspiracy perpetuated by the evil gaming industrial machine to disseminate the illusion that one can, in fact beat the game of craps after countless hours and huge monetary losses incurred by the masses of pathetic disillusioned dice shooters seeking imaginary paths to higher economic status.
Rumor has it that the "dice control" myth was the brain-child of a highly secretive consortium, convened some time in the early 70"s, in a bomb-proof bunker in South Tahoe and headed by the triumvirate of Henry Kissinger, Bill Harrah and Indria Ghandi.
The product of this historical occurence was two-fold, as the other item did, in fact, manifest itself almost immediately,i.e. the gas crisis of '72.
Rumor has it that the "dice control" myth was the brain-child of a highly secretive consortium, convened some time in the early 70"s, in a bomb-proof bunker in South Tahoe and headed by the triumvirate of Henry Kissinger, Bill Harrah and Indria Ghandi.
The product of this historical occurence was two-fold, as the other item did, in fact, manifest itself almost immediately,i.e. the gas crisis of '72.
Back in the day, and not even that far, say, 1990-ish, casinos were not all that concerned about the possibility of DC. They were very lackadaisical about requiring the dice to bounce off the backboard. Well, every GI knows, or should know, you can't trust a guy who wants to roll dice on a blanket. Dice control is not only possible in this manner, you are sure to get separated from your bankroll if you let someone do this to you. I've heard it said that Archie Karas broke the house at Binion's in just this way. But he lost it all back when Binion got wise and installed a highly bouncy material under the felt. When Archie rolled on this doctored surface, the story goes, he could not make it happen. So it went, from broke to $40,000,000 and back to broke again in the course of four years. The incredible run.
Prayer is probably the best approach where you must hit the pyramids and bounce back on the table. One consulting study found that the dice in a game setting are thrown with 222 times more force than is necessary to get a random roll, and this is without hitting the backboard. Steve forte ran a test in which he set the dice and dropped them from a height of ten inches 6,000 times. He found no difference from the expected results for a random throw.
Still, I have great confidence in some player's ability to do the seemingly impossible. I know what can be done on a pool table and I'm sure the consultants would say that certain things are impossible--but I've seen the impossible performed many times with my own eyes. Nothing is impossible. watch this demonstration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp-bGtpLakM
I was watching a world champion practice one day. He didn't have a clear path to the pocket. What did he do? He fired the cue ball at a object ball that had no clear path and lo and behold the object ball bounced up in the air and jumped over the blocking ball and into the pocket.
I knew a guy who would throw a ball off the table and let it roll twenty or thirty feet. then he would bet he could hit an object ball on the table causing the cue ball to jump off the table and roll across the floor to make a billiard by striking the ball in the floor. Don't bet him if you value your money.
I've seen guys who could throw playing cards hundreds of feet, for example, over a house.
Nothing would surprise me.
Prayer is probably the best approach where you must hit the pyramids and bounce back on the table. One consulting study found that the dice in a game setting are thrown with 222 times more force than is necessary to get a random roll, and this is without hitting the backboard. Steve forte ran a test in which he set the dice and dropped them from a height of ten inches 6,000 times. He found no difference from the expected results for a random throw.
Still, I have great confidence in some player's ability to do the seemingly impossible. I know what can be done on a pool table and I'm sure the consultants would say that certain things are impossible--but I've seen the impossible performed many times with my own eyes. Nothing is impossible. watch this demonstration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp-bGtpLakM
I was watching a world champion practice one day. He didn't have a clear path to the pocket. What did he do? He fired the cue ball at a object ball that had no clear path and lo and behold the object ball bounced up in the air and jumped over the blocking ball and into the pocket.
I knew a guy who would throw a ball off the table and let it roll twenty or thirty feet. then he would bet he could hit an object ball on the table causing the cue ball to jump off the table and roll across the floor to make a billiard by striking the ball in the floor. Don't bet him if you value your money.
I've seen guys who could throw playing cards hundreds of feet, for example, over a house.
Nothing would surprise me.