How is everyone else's year going so far?

Gamblor

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#21
mjbballar23 said:
Something is not adding up here. Your primarily counting, have 1000 hours played so far this year (40+ hours a week??!!!), and you've never had a session loss over 60 units? So if your a $5 unit player you've never lost more than $300 in one session over a 1000 hour sample? Pretty sure this is not possible...
Yes, not possible using a well established betting ramp.

Yes, 40 hrs a week, so close to a 1000, give or take 100 hrs. When I say session, I mean 6-8+ hrs usually.

Yes, never lost more than 60 units, that's even a tad bit "high". Did have a streak where I lost 40-60 units 5 sessions in a row.

I've probably got a very peculiar betting style specifically designed to minimize variance (and other reasons). Makes the roller coaster more like driving a careening car skidding on ice. Completely unsimmed and unproven, so take it for what its worth ;)
 

aslan

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#22
21forme said:
My last 3 sessions have each been a new all-time high.
Congratulations! I remember not too long ago you were having a bout of negative variance. Happy to hear you have gotten past it.

I've had my biggest two comebacks and my biggest loss this year. Overall I am way down though. If I stayed away from AC I would do much better. Vegas treated me well, but I find the games better there, too, if you shop around. The biggest loss is explainable by my betting higher this past year than ever before. Other than that, it's been same ole same ole-- a grind.
 

Gamblor

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#23
aslan said:
If I stayed away from AC I would do much better.
Up overall in AC, but approximately the last 10 sessions I've been there, I have been running completely flat - which is essentially being down :cry: Thank goodness for other parts of the country :) Sometimes think its their crappy rules, but either I'm stubborn and have a thick skull or I am a glutton for punishment, so will give it another shot soon enough :)
 

mjbballar23

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#24
Gamblor said:
Yes, not possible using a well established betting ramp.

Yes, 40 hrs a week, so close to a 1000, give or take 100 hrs. When I say session, I mean 6-8+ hrs usually.

Yes, never lost more than 60 units, that's even a tad bit "high". Did have a streak where I lost 40-60 units 5 sessions in a row.

I've probably got a very peculiar betting style specifically designed to minimize variance (and other reasons). Makes the roller coaster more like driving a careening car skidding on ice. Completely unsimmed and unproven, so take it for what its worth ;)
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kewljason

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#25
Well I would like to hear more about a betting style designed to minimize variance (without sacrificing winrate).

I am also wondering about the claim of 1000 hours in 6 months. To get in 40 hours of play time will generally take 50-60 hours of casino time depending on style of play. Add in travel time if you don't live within a few minutes of the games you play and you need to spend a great deal of time to get in 40 hours play time per week. Few players can do this. You pretty much have to be single and have no life and/or obligations.
 

Gamblor

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#26
kewljason said:
Well I would like to hear more about a betting style designed to minimize variance (without sacrificing winrate).

I am also wondering about the claim of 1000 hours in 6 months. To get in 40 hours of play time will generally take 50-60 hours of casino time depending on style of play. Add in travel time if you don't live within a few minutes of the games you play and you need to spend a great deal of time to get in 40 hours play time per week. Few players can do this. You pretty much have to be single and have no life and/or obligations.
I said give or take a 100 hrs :)

I live 30 mins, 40 mins, and 1 hr within 3 casinos. Also throw in a cluster of 3 casinos about 2 hrs away. Also throw in the 11 casinos close together :))) about 3 hrs away and 3 others about 3-4 hrs away. And yes my playing style is different.

If your implying I am a loser with no life, yes I am! Biggest pain is to get someone to take care of my dogs while I'm away :)

EV and variance, why assume they are diametrically opposed? Yes, yes I know why everyone would think why, used to think so myself.

Jeez, someone claims to be up 1500 MAX bets, and I get questioned about my 1000 hrs :laugh: I think most of us would gladly take being up 1500 MIN bets.

Just a word of advice, don't believe everything you read on the interwebz.
 
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kewljason

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#27
Gamblor said:
I said give or take a 100 hrs :)

I live 30 mins, 40 mins, and 1 hr within 3 casinos. Also throw in a cluster of 3 casinos about 2 hrs away. Also throw in the 11 casinos close together :))) about 3 hrs away and 3 others about 3-4 hrs away. And yes my playing style is different.

If your implying I am a loser with no life, yes I am! Biggest pain is to get someone to take care of my dogs while I'm away :)

Betting ramps meant to be a guide. Its not a straight jacket.

Jeez, someone claims to be up 1500 MAX bets, and I get questioned about my 1000 hrs :laugh: I think most of us would gladly take being up 1500 MIN bets.

Just a word of advice, don't believe everything you read on the interwebz.
If your 1500 max bet comment refers to Chaperone's claim, his claim was actually 1200 max bets. You may not be that familiar with Chaperone as this isn't his primary posting outlet, but he is a longtime, well know, player who uses advanced techniques, so I don't find his claim that non-credible.

I didn't find your claim to be not credible either. It wasn't an attack on you. As someone who plays a great deal, I was just pointing out that putting in that kind of time is difficult and rare. Few players do so. However, based on your response about proximity to games, I really don't see how you could be doing so. :confused: At least not without spending even more total time than I initially speculated (travel), which would be eating not only into your time but profits as well. But if you do, power to you. I went through that for a while, which lead me to conclude, if I was really going to continue to play seriously this way, I needed to relocate closer to the games. I considered somewhere just outside Atlantic City, but only briefly. There really was only one choice for me. :)

I do find your comment “give or take 100 hours” interesting as well. I do not track my results by time, opting instead for an estimate of hands played, because in the end, that is what really matters. However, I have never heard of another player that did not track their play by time, so for someone to be so lack-a-daisical about 100 hours seems a bit strange.
 
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Gamblor

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#28
kewljason said:
If your 1500 max bet comment refers to Chaperone's claim, his claim was actually 1200 max bets. You may not be that familiar with Chaperone as this isn't his primary posting outlet, but he is a longtime, well know, player who uses advanced techniques, so I don't find his claim that non-credible.

I didn't find your claim to be not credible either. It wasn't an attack on you. As someone who plays a great deal, I was just pointing out that putting in that kind of time is difficult and rare. Few players do so. However, based on your response about proximity to games, I really don't see how you could be doing so. :confused: At least not without spending even more total time than I initially speculated (travel), which would be eating not only into your time but profits as well. But if you do, power to you. I went through that for a while, which lead me to conclude, if I was really going to continue to play seriously this way, I needed to relocate closer to the games. I considered somewhere just outside Atlantic City, but only briefly. There really was only one choice for me. :)

I do find your comment “give or take 100 hours” interesting as well. I do not track my results by time, opting instead for an estimate of hands played, because in the end, that is what really matters. However, I have never heard of another player that did not track their play by time, so for someone to be so lack-a-daisical about 100 hours seems a bit strange.
Well, I'm a lack-a-daisical type of guy, I frankly admit I don't keep the most accurate track of my hours. I have all my hours recorded on several crumpled up notes, some of which I probably lost track of :)

Eh, not sure why its so hard to believe 1000 hrs with my driving distance. Can stay at a nice resort town for a few days playing 12 hrs a day. Or a 30 minute drive and play 10 hrs. Shoot, people drive through 2 hrs of NYC traffic and work 10+ hrs in the office every day. Fringe benefit of being a CC is we can avoid rush hour :)

If your really curious, will be glad to tell you my insane scheme to reduce variance without reducing EV. Just have to promise not to say anything about it. Might be good for a laugh if anything :)

No disrespect meant to Mr. Chaperone, just lowly CC me, can't fathom being up 1200 max bets. I'm pretty sure I haven't even made 1200 max bets all year :laugh:
 
#30
I was doing very well until June. Since then I've been trending downward with a few positive interruptions here and there. The hourly rate is lower than expected but still positive.
 

The Chaperone

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#31
Freightman said:
There is more than counting at work here. I thought I was doing well with my approx 270 max bets up for the year.
Yeah mostly shopping around for good deals :)

And often flat-betting the max so this is a little misleading. Most of these type of games are $100 max or even less, so not really 1,200 max bets of what I would like to bet, but 1,200 of the casino's max bets. They usually start to figure out something is up when they get down 200-300 max bets lol.

:joker::joker::joker:
 

21forme

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#32
aslan said:
Congratulations! I remember not too long ago you were having a bout of negative variance. Happy to hear you have gotten past it.

I've had my biggest two comebacks and my biggest loss this year. Overall I am way down though. If I stayed away from AC I would do much better. Vegas treated me well, but I find the games better there, too, if you shop around. The biggest loss is explainable by my betting higher this past year than ever before. Other than that, it's been same ole same ole-- a grind.
Thanks. Yes, it was an excellent DD game that just killed me a few months ago, but you know how fickle this game can be!

Re game quality and short term variance, here's one for you:
I was chatting with an AP friend of mine the other day. For the month of June he's +6K from AC play and -5K from PA play. Go figure!
 

aslan

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#34
Gamblor said:
Yes, not possible using a well established betting ramp.

Yes, 40 hrs a week, so close to a 1000, give or take 100 hrs. When I say session, I mean 6-8+ hrs usually.

Yes, never lost more than 60 units, that's even a tad bit "high". Did have a streak where I lost 40-60 units 5 sessions in a row.

I've probably got a very peculiar betting style specifically designed to minimize variance (and other reasons). Makes the roller coaster more like driving a careening car skidding on ice. Completely unsimmed and unproven, so take it for what its worth ;)
I once had a betting style like that... until I drove it over a ciliff. :eek::laugh:

Whoopsy daisy!
 
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sagefr0g

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#36
Gamblor said:
...... Fringe benefit of being a CC is we can avoid rush hour :)
yup one can virtually own the road. how much money is a two hour interstate drive at 70mph valued at anyway, if one owned the road?
If your really curious, will be glad to tell you my insane scheme to reduce variance without reducing EV. Just have to promise not to say anything about it. Might be good for a laugh if anything :)
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just me maybe, i think you should post your scheme, inquiring minds want to know.

ohh and on the OP, up 800 units or up 1,400 units depending on how one looks at it. but that's going by units of how i play table blackjack (1:8 spread) which i don't play much of any more, mostly doing other AP stuff of which blackjack is a part of the portfolio, sorta thing. kind of a slow start this year as much as i hate to admit it, i was guilty of the cardinal sin of drinking sea water instead of 'shopping for deals' as Chap puts it (ie. steaming, chasing, bad game choices, excess experimentation for potential AP).
 

Wookets

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#37
Gamblor I'd be interested in hearing your variance reduction scheme.

On topic, I'm up 350 units, but lately I haven't been putting in my usual CC hours because I've found a new opportunity that I've been training myself for. Hopefully it will all pay off!
 

Gamblor

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#39
aslan said:
I once had a betting style like that... until I drove it over a ciliff. :eek::laugh:

Whoopsy daisy!
Genuine concern, I don't think anything will completely remove that possibility. But come now, standard CC is full of cliffs. Or the roller coaster going off track.


sagefr0g said:
just me maybe, i think you should post your scheme, inquiring minds want to know.
sagefrog, as someone who contributed much to this board, and a genuine nice guy, will be glad to tell you. Don't want to post it on public board. I am morbidly afraid of ridicule! :laugh: Also there's a remote chance that someone else is crazy enough to think its a good idea.
 
#40
Doing lousy, but not too bad.

But if my variance gets any worse, I'm switching to drugs and whores! :cool2:

Although that can have bad variance too. Some days my luck is so bad, if I were to go for the drugs and whores I'd probably come back to my room with a bag of strychnine and a she-male. :(
 
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