My personal logs of playing online Blackjack

Gregory · Feb 28, 2006

bosco4300 said:

Yes Bosco, once you meet the WR you can lose the bonus but get your deposit back at Planetluck. Starluck is also the same. These are both quality casinos and you should place them on your bonus hunting list. In fact, my deposit from Planetluck is already back in my Neteller account. They pay out fast!
I'm currently playing William Hill ... same software as InterCasino ... which means that if you have a terrible run you can take your deposit out WITHOUT even meeting the WR for the bonus. That's right, I have read that at InterCasino and William Hill you play with the bonus first. Lose it and you need not fret since you can withdraw your deposit. Beautiful eh?
I always play a bit more than the minimum WR requirement. Sometimes quite a bit more. Sometimes I shouldn't do that. Sigh.

aussiecounter · Mar 1, 2006

Gregory said:

As it should be, as once you have met the WR there is no bonus and deposit, its all yours, to do with as you please.(except for sticky bonuses)

Gregory said:

Be careful all you beginners, I don't believe this is the norm, a lot of casinos will have you play your deposit first, then your bonus. e.g. you deposit $100 for a $100 match. If you are then down $50 to a $150 balance, they'll only let you take out $50, until you meet the WR. Some places MIGHT let you take out the $50 then keep on playing for the WR with the bonus, but some will take back the bonus upon your first withdrawal if you haven't met the WR.
There are a lot of different combinations of rules and Terms and Conditions, and you really have to read each one individually.

E-town-guy · Mar 1, 2006

aussiecounter said:

Let us know if you have any problems withdrawing your money. I'm always worried about playing for sticky bonuses because you have to bet really big off the bat on a few hands and then go back to $2-5 bets. Its looks pretty obvious what your intentions are so I was worried they'd make it difficult to withdraw your money.

E-town-guy · Mar 1, 2006

Gregory said:

I'm currently playing William Hill ... same software as InterCasino ... which means that if you have a terrible run you can take your deposit out WITHOUT even meeting the WR for the bonus. That's right, I have read that at InterCasino and William Hill you play with the bonus first. Lose it and you need not fret since you can withdraw your deposit. Beautiful eh?
I always play a bit more than the minimum WR requirement. Sometimes quite a bit more. Sometimes I shouldn't do that. Sigh.

With William Hill do you have to wait for a pin # to be mailed to you like at Inter Casino before you make a withdrawl?

Gregory · Mar 1, 2006

It doesn't appear so. I just made a withdrawal of $184.00 via Neteller and it required no pin number. Personally, I think the InterCasino eCash Direct deal is a pain in the butt. I just got my pin number for them today, 12 days after I joined. It is safer than a standard withdrawal no doubt, but when I go to my local casino I don't have to wait 12 days if I win.

By the way, I really liked William Hill and will adding my little review of them to this thread pretty quick here. In short: PLAY THEM.

Gregory · Mar 1, 2006

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William Hill
Bonus match of 100% up to $80.00 for first time users, then a monthly match bonus of $40.00.
WR for $80.00 sign up bonus being wagered is a total of 2000 "turns".
WR for $40.00 monthly bonus being wagered is a total of 800 "turns".
A turn is equal to one dollar.
All Bonuses are cashable once WR is met.
Minimum wager at Blackjack is one dollar.
Another casino I really liked. These guys have their hands in all sorts of pies, with the end result being that you feel pretty secure playing here. They have been around since 1934 and are a substantial business:
(Dead link: http://www.william-hill-online-casino.com/about.htm)
If you have played at InterCasino, the William Hill casino will immediately be familiar to you ... with a few features I actually preferred over InterCasino. The main feature is that when you start the casino, it tells you immediately how far you have left to until the bonus money is yours. Yeah, they call them "turns", but it's the same as dollars. I also prefer the Cashier at William Hill. It is more complete than at InterCasino and allows you to transfer money around from casino to poker or track wagering if you wish, I didn't ... but it's pretty cool that I could if I wanted to. Also no PIN to get at your cash is a huge plus in my book.
I deposited my $80.00 and as advertised it was immediately matched. It was pleasant to note that when I was down a bit my own money was never at stake. Checking the cashier showed that my losses were taken off the bonus money first. Can't beat that. My low point was $118.00 after a pretty rough run, but this is starting at $160.00, not $200.00. I climbed back up and hit the WR with $144.00. I took a break and when I returned not only had the bonus money been converted to withdrawable, but the $40.00 monthly bonus had also been applied to my account! I had the option then of either just withdrawing my $144.00 or going to work on the bonus. Yeah, that's a no brainer. An hour and a half later I had claimed the $40.00 monthly bonus as well. I only popped over the WR by maybe $30.00 before transferring everything to Neteller. I had no desire to risk any additional wagers to pad the WR. These guys are big enough that my little win is a drop in their very large bucket. $80.00 becomes $184.50 and now I move along. Nothing stupendous, but a terrific recovery to my botching of Planetluck.

troyer · Mar 1, 2006

Gregory said:

#6
William Hill
Bonus match of 100% up to $80.00 for first time users, then a monthly match bonus of $40.00.
WR for $80.00 sign up bonus being wagered is a total of 2000 "turns".
WR for $40.00 monthly bonus being wagered is a total of 800 "turns".
A turn is equal to one dollar.
All Bonuses are cashable once WR is met.
Minimum wager at Blackjack is one dollar.
Another casino I really liked. These guys have their hands in all sorts of pies, with the end result being that you feel pretty secure playing here. They have been around since 1934 and are a substantial business:
(Dead link: http://www.william-hill-online-casino.com/about.htm)
If you have played at InterCasino, the William Hill casino will immediately be familiar to you ... with a few features I actually preferred over InterCasino. The main feature is that when you start the casino, it tells you immediately how far you have left to until the bonus money is yours. Yeah, they call them "turns", but it's the same as dollars. I also prefer the Cashier at William Hill. It is more complete than at InterCasino and allows you to transfer money around from casino to poker or track wagering if you wish, I didn't ... but it's pretty cool that I could if I wanted to. Also no PIN to get at your cash is a huge plus in my book.
I deposited my $80.00 and as advertised it was immediately matched. It was pleasant to note that when I was down a bit my own money was never at stake. Checking the cashier showed that my losses were taken off the bonus money first. Can't beat that. My low point was $118.00 after a pretty rough run, but this is starting at $160.00, not $200.00. I climbed back up and hit the WR with $144.00. I took a break and when I returned not only had the bonus money been converted to withdrawable, but the $40.00 monthly bonus had also been applied to my account! I had the option then of either just withdrawing my $144.00 or going to work on the bonus. Yeah, that's a no brainer. An hour and a half later I had claimed the $40.00 monthly bonus as well. I only popped over the WR by maybe $30.00 before transferring everything to Neteller. I had no desire to risk any additional wagers to pad the WR. These guys are big enough that my little win is a drop in their very large bucket. $80.00 becomes $184.50 and now I move along. Nothing stupendous, but a terrific recovery to my botching of Planetluck.

so for this casino you could technically cash out your initial deposit without reaching the WR if your own money becomes at stake? also how much did you bet per hand? how many hands? thanks

Gregory · Mar 1, 2006

Yes, it certainly looks as though you can cash out if you lose the bonus but never hit the WR. When I was down, the money I had lost was showing as being removed from the bonus money, and not my deposit.
I bet 2 dollars a hand pretty much exclusively. A few times I went up to 3 and a few times I dropped to 1. As for how many hands, counting my notes looks like about 1300 hands. Took me about 4 hours all together.

Gregory · Mar 1, 2006

I'm every bit as curious as E-town-guy about this as well. A web search doesn't reveal any serious problems with Golden Palace, other than they tend to want more information than they may legitimately need just to pay out for a win.
Aussie, please drop a note somewhere about how your cash out goes with Golden Palace.

bosco4300 · Mar 2, 2006

I am getting murdered at Starluck down to 125 after $1000 only $600 left to go. The amount of 21s the dealer has gotten is pretty amazing, though I will have to trust the math gods and hope that I go on a nice up swing. Ill let you all know how it ends up.

Gregory · Mar 2, 2006

bosco4300 said:

I did well at Starluck but had my butt handed to me by Planetluck.
aussiecounter did well at Planetluck but was wiped out by Starluck.
Guess if you tank at Starluck you'll need to give Planetluck a try.

E-town-guy · Mar 2, 2006

Gregory said:

I'm every bit as curious as E-town-guy about this as well. A web search doesn't reveal any serious problems with Golden Palace, other than they tend to want more information than they may legitimately need just to pay out for a win.
Aussie, please drop a note somewhere about how your cash out goes with Golden Palace.

What kind of info??

E-town-guy · Mar 2, 2006

troyer said:

I always worry that by doing that you give away the fact that you're playing only for bonuses. It would be just as simple to wait and if you lose your bonus just withdraw your deposit then. It looks more natural. I in fact did that once at Casino on net.

bosco4300 · Mar 2, 2006

I wouldnt recomend starluck to any one especially beginners unless you want to be absolutely convinced that online gaming is rigged. I dont see how anyone could have made it out with any money according to one site the chances of completely busting out playing $2 a hand is .5% well i am down to 44 with $300 to go so looks like I will be in that .5%

E-town-guy · Mar 2, 2006

I made money there as did a lot of others. Sadly, you might be part of the 0.5%. Someone has to be.

troyer · Mar 2, 2006

i am thinking of giving this william hill a try. would it be worth it to deposit $50 and not the full $80? because i can really only spare $50 right now. Also, i thought there was a site where you put in the rules of the house and it gives you the exact BS plays you should make? or maybe there was a site where you just choose the site your playing at,anyone have these?

aussiecounter · Mar 2, 2006

I put in the cashout last night, for $702 of $1000 (don't forget to cash in your comp points, I got $2, yay!).
Its gone through the first stage of processing, as my balance is at $0 now, and was at $300 last night after I put it in.
I can't get into my email account (bloody Hotmail:whip: ), so I can't check any emails from them, or check any of the other things I want to.
I'll keep updating if you want.

E-town-guy · Mar 2, 2006

The best thing to do is put the rules into the strategy engine on this site and play with the BS it gives you.

Unless you're risking this month's mortgage I would suggest going 'all in' and risking $80. If you keep two things in mind chances are very good that you'll walk out up. Play BS and don't be more then $2/hand.

Good luck

aussiecounter · Mar 2, 2006

E-town-guy said:

Here's a link to said Basic Strategy Engine:
http://www.blackjackinfo.com/bjbse.php

bosco4300 · Mar 2, 2006

Well So far here are my results.
Casino On Net - deposit $200 cash out $450. $2 per hand
StarLuck- Deposit $100 cash out $30, $2 a hand
Cant decide if I want to try planet luck since it is related to starluck. Guess we will see

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