Need to let out some steam...

[bondon]

I took a 9 month break from the AP life and then decided to return to the grind last week. I was playing a four deck shoe, spreading 1-3 ($10 minimum bet). I quickly notice a player across the pit who has a 4 large stacks of red chips and he's following every card. I'm thinking to myself, "Newbie counter should be decent cover" and I'm relaxed, talking to other players at the table.

Not 10 minutes after sitting down, I hear the phone ring and the pit boss is talking to surveillance. She mentions "twins" and then points in Newbie's direction and then mine. The man to my left jokingly tells me, "Hey! I think she thinks you're the next guy from 21!" I reply, "Wow. I didn't realize I was a big celebrity."

I look at the pit boss and she stares back at me for an uncomfortable 10 seconds. I'm not threatened by her and I believe the only reason she let me and newb stay was that we were playing small stakes and weren't worth the trouble to permanently bar from the casino. The newbie had no idea what was going on throughout the entire ordeal.

I realize that I've pretty much had my shot at this casino and I would the opinion from some of you professionals. Should I go out with a bang and keep playing until I get barred, or should I lay off? (I've only experienced heat at 2 casinos and this was one of them).

 

[Unshake]

If you're getting heat: Using a 1-3 spread + playing red chips + playing a shoe game the casino most likely isn't worth playing at, especially if you have others nearby. Note: Not a professional by any measure
She might have let you stay because if you were playing-all you might not even have had an advantage especially if it was a bad game.

 

[creeping panther]

Unahke

If you're getting heat: Using a 1-3 spread + playing red chips + playing a shoe game the casino most likely isn't worth playing at, especially if you have others nearby. Note: Not a professional by any measure
She might have let you stay because if you were playing-all you might not even have had an advantage especially if it was a bad game.

Those are all dangerous assumptions on your part.

CP

 

[creeping panther]

Funny

I took a 9 month break from the AP life and then decided to return to the grind last week. I was playing a four deck shoe, spreading 1-3 ($10 minimum bet). I quickly notice a player across the pit who has a 4 large stacks of red chips and he's following every card. I'm thinking to myself, "Newbie counter should be decent cover" and I'm relaxed, talking to other players at the table.

Not 10 minutes after sitting down, I hear the phone ring and the pit boss is talking to surveillance. She mentions "twins" and then points in Newbie's direction and then mine. The man to my left jokingly tells me, "Hey! I think she thinks you're the next guy from 21!" I reply, "Wow. I didn't realize I was a big celebrity."

I look at the pit boss and she stares back at me for an uncomfortable 10 seconds. I'm not threatened by her and I believe the only reason she let me and newb stay was that we were playing small stakes and weren't worth the trouble to permanently bar from the casino. The newbie had no idea what was going on throughout the entire ordeal.

I realize that I've pretty much had my shot at this casino and I would the opinion from some of you professionals. Should I go out with a bang and keep playing until I get barred, or should I lay off? (I've only experienced heat at 2 casinos and this was one of them).

You are taking a shot at the Newbie and you get busted :laugh:

What part of the country were you in....Midwest?

CP

 

[EasyRhino]

I was playing a four deck shoe, spreading 1-3 ($10 minimum bet).

First, and by far most importatly, you're still playing a losing game with such a small spread. Therefore, the casino should welcome you with open arms (unless the table is full and they can find someone who will lose more).

Second, you've just experienced why the conventional wisdom is to never sit at the same table as another counter. The other doofus can bring extra attention to you.

If you ever start playing a winning game, you might want to avoid that one pit boss. But otherwise, I wouldn't sweat it.

 

[peaegg]

Takes only 10 minutes to get notices with 1-3 spread?

Oh boy. I have never seen such a quick reaction. Or, is it possible that you were in their database from previous play?

 

[celadore]

Spread 'em like you mean it!

Go back in a fake 'tashe and cowboy hat and wong in on high counts with max bets shouting YeeHaa!! :grin: See if you get backed off then.

No way they can make you spreading 1-3 after 10 mins. You must have history there. Maybe they saw you checking out the other counter and thought there was some team action going on, who knows! Pit Bosses can be jittery critters.

 

[bondon]

Thanks for the replies mates! I have almost been backed off one other time and they might have my picture up somewhere on their AP list. I play up north in Alberta. Conditions are favorable but the table limits are too low to make it a highly profitable game. 4D, H17, ES 10, 75% pen.